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SECURITIES AND EXCHANGE COMMISSION
WASHINGTON, D.C. 20549
FORM 8-K
CURRENT REPORT
PURSUANT TO SECTION 13 OR 15(D) OF
THE SECURITIES EXCHANGE ACT OF 1934
DATE OF REPORT (DATE OF EARLIEST EVENT REPORTED): March 23, 2011
PFSweb, Inc.
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INFORMATION TO BE INCLUDED IN THE REPORT
ITEM 8.01. Other Events
On March 23, 2011, PFSweb, Inc. hosted a conference call announcing its financial results for
the quarter ended December 31, 2010. Attached to this current report on Form 8-K is a copy of the
related conference call transcript dated March 23, 2011. The information in this Report on Form
8-K, and the exhibit hereto, shall not be deemed filed for purposes of Section 18 of the Exchange
Act or otherwise subject to the liability of that Section.
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Pursuant to the requirements of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, the registrant has duly caused
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Exhibit 99.1
Company: PFSweb, Inc. (Nasdaq: PFSW)
Subject: Q4 2010 Earnings Call
Date: March 23, 2011
MANAGEMENT DISCUSSION SECTION
Operator: Good morning. My name is Melisa and I will be your conference operator today. At
this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the PFSweb Fourth Quarter and Year End 2010 Earnings
Conference Call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the
speakers remarks, there will be a question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] Thank you.
I would now like to turn the conference over to Garth Russell of KCSA Strategic Communications.
Please go ahead.
Garth Russell, KCSA Strategic Communications
Thank you, Melisa. Before turning the call over to management, I would like to make the following
remarks concerning forward-looking statements.
All statements in this conference call other than historical facts are forward-looking statements.
The words anticipate, believe, estimate, expect, intend, will, guidance, confidence, target,
project and other similar expressions, typically are used to identify forward-looking statements.
These forward-looking statements are not guarantees of future performances, and may involve and are
subject to risks, uncertainties and other factors that may affect PFSwebs business, financial
condition and other operating results, which include, but are not limited to, the risk factors and
other qualifications contained in PFSwebs Annual Report on Form 10-K, quarterly reports on Form
10-Q and other reports filed by PFSweb with the SEC, to which your attention is directed.
Therefore, actual outcomes and results may differ materially from what is expressed or implied by
these forward-looking statements. PFSweb expressly disclaims any intent or obligation to update
these forward-looking statements.
During this call, we may also present certain non-GAAP financial measures such as EBITDA, Adjusted
EBITDA, non-GAAP net income, free cash flow, merchandise sales and certain ratios that use these
measures. In our press release with the financial tables issued today, which is located on our
website at www.pfsweb.com, youll find our definitions of these non-GAAP financial measures, a
reconciliation of these non-GAAP financial measures with the closest GAAP measures, and a
discussion about why we think these non-GAAP measures are relevant. These financial measures are
included for the benefit of the investors, and should not be considered in addition to, and not
instead of GAAP measures.
At this time, its now my pleasure to turn the floor over to Mark Layton, Chairman and Chief
Executive Officer of PFSweb. Mark, the floor is yours.
Mark C. Layton, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer
Thank you, Garth. Good morning, everyone. Welcome to our 2010 fourth quarter and year-end
conference call. As we have in the past, with me today is Tom Madden, our Chief Financial Officer
and Mike Willoughby, our President.
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This morning, well give you an overview of our financial results and add some color related to the
quarter ending December 31, 2010, and also for the year ended on that same day. After our prepared
remarks, Tom and I will be available for questions.
2010 was an incredibly inspiring year for our company, and was marked by many achievements. And Id
like to start this morning by just giving you a few highlights that youll hear themes of
throughout the prepared comments this morning.
First, as you look at the results that weve released this morning, youll see that our Service Fee
revenue for the year grew over 21%, and in the fourth quarter of 2010 grew 35%. The increases in
revenue were attributable not only to the growth of our existing clients, but also to new clients,
and the fact that its coming from both parts of the growth engine, its very important for us in
terms that we as we look for the future for sustained growth.
The second key highlight we see for the year and the quarter was the fact that we launched 10 new
Service Fee clients during 2010. In total, as Ive mentioned, about 10 new clients, both in the
U.S. and Europe. Some of the key names included companies like Carters, Volcom, Havaianas, several
new Liz Claiborne brand names; including Juicy Couture, Kensie, and Monet and several clients under
our master agreement with an as yet undisclosed beauty and fragrance company as well as many
others. Many of these contracts include our complete End2End services offering that has been a
cornerstone to our growth over the past few years.
Third key highlight, Adjusted EBITDA, when you look at our results grew by 55%. The factors,
primarily growth that I just described, helped drive those results for our 2010 financial year.
Adjusted EBITDA for the year ended at about $5.5 million.
Fourth, as weve talked in the past, a key financial aspect to our model has to do with economies
of scale and what youre seeing is the scale benefits beginning to materialize as our Service Fee
revenue grows. Strong growth this past year combined with a keen eye towards efficient and
cost-effective technology development and operational management we believe allows for a financial
model of continued improvement and Adjusted EBITDA performance as we look to the future. While we
do expect to make some significant investments in staff, facilities and technology in the first
half of 2011 to address even greater growth that we see, we believe this will prepare us well to
capitalize on the continuing wave of new business opportunities that are out there. As such, we are
currently targeting Service Fee revenue to increase approximately 20% in 2011 and Adjusted EBITDA
to increase to between $6 million and $7 million for 2011.
Fifth, youll see as you received our comments this morning that our new business pipeline has now
grown to more than $50 million in size. This is indicative of the continued momentum that were
seeing as it relates to manufacturers expanding their direct-to-consumer initiatives. Our new
business pipeline, which as I mentioned now sits at more than $50 million, is the largest its been
in our history. We believe this speaks for itself in terms of both the rapidly growing number of
End2End opportunities we are pursuing, and in the growing reputation that PFSweb has earned for
successfully implementing high-quality and customizable solutions for our clients.
And sixth, I think the other key highlight from 2010 and recently is that weve completed a
divestiture of selected assets of our eCOST.com business as of February 2011. We believe this
action will allow us to take what weve learned at the frontline of the web commerce retail world
and focus that knowledge more resourcefully on our rapidly growing services business.
So with those six highlights as a backdrop, I hope you can see why Im very encouraged and excited
about the building momentum we have going into 2011. And Im even more excited about the strong
pipeline of potential new clients, and the fact that they are coming from several key and expanding
markets that frankly are very new to the Internet commerce wave. These include the fashion and
cosmetics industry, as well as the consumer packaged goods market.
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And with that as a high level backdrop for todays call, I want to turn it over to Mike Willoughby,
our President for a few minutes, and let him add a little bit more detail and flavor. Mike?
Michael Willoughby, Senior Partner President
Thanks, Mark and good morning, everyone. As Mark said, its natural that were very excited about
the opportunities we see. And this morning, Id like to begin by giving some information about what
is driving that excitement and driving the growth in our business.
Just over three years ago, we announced the availability of our End2End eCommerce solution, which
features the world class Demandware eCommerce platform. We followed that announcement by the launch
of the Canada and the U.S. Roots site on Demandware in the summer of 2008. We offer this End2End
solution directly as a comprehensive best-of-breed program that provides our clients with a single
accountable partner for their entire eCommerce program. We brought all of the world-class
components of an enterprise caliber eCommerce program from both our proven component and also from
our best-of-breed technology partners together in a single package.
We believe this innovative approach delivers the best of both worlds to our clients, a single
accountable partner without compromising quality or capability in any area of the eCommerce
program. Our End2End solution allows our clients to focus on core competencies and drive better
customer experience and leverage agility in marketing and merchandising efforts, and it frees them
up to be successful.
Im pleased to say that we now have more than 15 End2End programs operating since that first
End2End solution was launched in 2008. Several of our clients have made a point of publicly stating
their satisfaction with our End2End solution indicating that the program has exceeded their
expectations, including Roots, our first client to utilize the new End2End solution, and also
Carters Inc., which launched End2End solutions for its Carters and its OshKosh brands just last
year.
Weve also helped companies re-platform their brand from internal or competing eCommerce solutions
in order to take advantage of our solutions market-leading technologies. Brands that have made
such a re-platforming move or in the process of making such a move include, Lucky Brand Jeans,
Juicy Couture, kate spade and several of those clients under the master agreement with a beauty and
fragrance company. I think our track record along with our reputation as a leading solution
provider in our industry is helping us gain entry to potential new clients to helping us compete
effectively for their business.
Our collection of great brand names and the vast range of services is a clear testament to the
value of our service offering. And the flexibility of our eCommerce solution has played a major
role in this success, and allowed us to sign numerous agreements with clients who are looking for a
solution that fit their specific brand strategies. I think its this flexibility that separates us
from our competitors, and has made us a preferred partner to work with.
As Mark mentioned, we are excited and we are encouraged by the increase in Service Fee revenue this
quarter of more than 35% year-over-year, and our new business pipeline is stronger than ever, now
exceeding $50 million in size. The estimated value of this new business pipeline is based on
potential client projections, and we believe its building in momentum. In addition, we continue to
effectively respond to growing trends in various markets, and we are working aggressively to expand
relationships that we have with current clients.
Now with regard to the vertical markets that we are currently addressing, we continue to see very
strong interest among the consumer packaged goods companies. They are seeking to launch branded
direct-to-consumer eCommerce sites.
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Last year following the announcement of our enterprise agreement with P&G, we experienced a
significant growth in our new business pipeline from CPG companies, and although the sales cycle of
these large companies is typically lengthy, we are seeing several of these opportunities progress
nicely. Last quarter, we began implementing an End2End solution for a well-known company in the
pre-packaged food and beverage category and we expect to launch and announce this exciting new site
this summer.
Weve also experienced continued growth in the fashion, apparel, and accessories market and the
health and beauty market. In fact, over the past few years weve been launching custom End2End
eCommerce programs for a number of well-known luxury or fashion apparel brands under what we
previously announced as a master agreement with a luxury goods company. And due to the ongoing
transition of these brands from another service provider to our End2End solution, were not in a
position to disclose the name of the brands or the name of the luxury goods company itself.
However, now that a majority of these brands are utilizing our services, weve been permitted to
disclose this information.
So, first, the master agreement is with Liz Claiborne, under which multiple brands now have
customized End2End programs. And individual brands include Lucky Brand Jeans, kate spade new york,
Juicy Couture, Kensie, and Monet. One additional brand size is in development and will launch
before summer, and under the master agreement, there is potential for Liz Claiborne to add other
brands in the future. This Liz Claiborne master agreement leverages our warehouse, order
fulfillment and logistic services to support each of these brands uniquely. And watching these
programs demonstrates our ability to rapidly launch successive brands on a common platform and
infrastructure, while at the same time we still deliver a completely customized experience at every
single customer touch point.
Another master agreement which we initially mentioned last quarter is an expanded agreement with
the fragrance and beauty company. And under this agreement, weve now launched four customized
End2End eCommerce programs for individual health and beauty brands over the last couple of
quarters, and we expect to launch at least two more brand sites under this agreement this year. We
hope and expect to announce the identity of the client and the name of the individual brands. The
continual roll out of the separate customized programs under this new master agreement, in addition
to our Liz Claiborne master agreement, and our Procter & Gamble agreement, I believe validates our
approach to target luxury, prestige and CPG brand holding companies or brand portfolio companies,
where a single contract relationship may lead to multiple valuable brand engagements.
We believe our End2End solution is uniquely positioned in the industry to meet the needs of those
brand holding companies, where we can provide a single solid infrastructure and provide tremendous
leverage to our clients, and give them economies of scale. In this position, were still providing
a custom branded experience for each brand meeting their unique expectations, and I think this is
critical to the luxury and prestige brand that were targeting today.
Also, the overall market opportunity for eCommerce in Europe continues to expand, as additional
brands are becoming more aware of the benefits of going direct to consumer. Were extremely excited
about the amount of opportunity proposed by this trend, and we believe that were well prepared to
capitalize on this growing market in Europe and potentially expand our services to a much wider
customer base.
I think it goes without saying that to ensure were able to handle these growth opportunities
appropriately, careful expansion planning will be necessary and during 2011, we plan to make some
significant incremental investments in our businesses, staffing and facility, technology and other
infrastructure capabilities. And to provide some color on those plans and discuss a little bit
further, Im going to turn the call back over to Mark to get into some detail there.
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Mark C. Layton, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer
Great. Thanks, Mike. So as Mike just mentioned and as I alluded to earlier in the call, we do plan
to make some anticipated expansion in our business activities over the next particularly over
the first half of the year to support the new growth that we see, not only from new clients, but
our existing clients as well.
Just let me give you a few highlights on those. The expansion includes, first, the addition of some
new team members in our U.S, Europe and Philippines operations. These permanent positions are being
added now and will be in addition to several hundred temporary positions that will be added to
support our Q4 peak.
Secondly, we are in the process of adding a new food grade distribution facility in the Memphis
area to support specific facility requirements that we need to meet to support growth from the new
clients that Mike just mentioned in our consumer packaged goods industry area.
Third, we are looking at the addition or expansion of our Dallas area call center facility, which
we believe will add several hundred additional call center stations and provide us better
flexibility to expand and contract call center seats as client demands and seasons vary.
Fourth, as Mike mentioned, we are receiving an accelerated opportunity in our European market and
as a result we have a planned expansion of our distribution operations in Belgium to support the
numerous opportunities that we are now seeing emerging throughout the European region.
These are just some highlights, but we believe this expansion shows just how excited we are about
the growth we are seeing and how dedicated we are towards securing the necessary resources and
planning ahead in order to ensure that we are successful in our ability to operate for our clients.
Before I turn the call over to Tom to talk about the financials a little bit, let me just spend a
short time on closing the book on our eCOST.com subsidiary. As I mentioned in the past, overall
eCOST was a great, but no doubt expensive learning experience. We believe the time and effort we
put into the eCOST.com business allowed us to markedly improve and expand the interactive marketing
services that we now provide many of our service clients in PFS.
Further, many of our experiences with eCOST.com have become fully encompassed in this PFSweb
End2End eCommerce solution package that Mike described. As a result of these advancements, weve
significantly expanded our client base over the past few years and we are now better suited to
support companies in multiple growing industries.
In late February 2011, we finalized an asset sale agreement with PC Mall to divest a specific
inventory and other selected assets, primarily intangibles, of eCOST.com business for a
consideration of about $2.2 million. While our team had worked feverishly over the past few years
to transform the eCOST.com business model into one that could generate consistently positive
financial returns, ultimately we continue to face challenge that linked in the timeline to achieve
that goal beyond our appetite.
In the end, we decided divesting the business was the best option for PFSweb as a whole. By taking
this option, we believe we now have a greater ability to focus all of our attention on maintaining
the growth of our services business, which is accelerating significantly as Mike talked about and
where we believe our expertise in eCommerce services and existing infrastructure can maximize
revenue and profit opportunities for us.
As Tom will comment further in just a couple of minutes here, we do still have valuable continuing
client relationships, including Procter & Gamble and some remaining infrastructure to support those
relationships that resided in the eCOST.com subsidiary. We also hold for future benefit significant
tax loss carry forwards in the sub.
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As part of the sale agreement, we agreed to change the name of the remaining business subsidiary.
As such, we have chosen to rename the former eCOST.com subsidiary, PFSweb Retail Connect, Inc. And
given its highly similar buy/sell product design, in the future youll see the PFSweb Retail
Connect, Inc. results reported segment wise along with our Supplies Distributors, Inc. subsidiary
in a new segment that we will call PFSweb Business and Retail Connect.
So with that information, let me hand the call over to Tom and he will take you through the
financials. Tom?
Thomas J. Madden, Senior Partner Chief Financial Officer and Chief Accounting Officer
Thank you, Mark. Well, as Mark and Mike have both alluded to, Im also pleased with the progress
that PFS made this quarter and for the year in our business and financial results.
Before we get into the financial results, I would like to briefly discuss a couple of items that
will help everyone interpret these results better. As we have discussed in February 2011, we made
the strategic decision to sell select assets of our eCOST.com business to PC Mall for a total
purchase price of approximately $2.3 million. The assets sold include inventory on hand, as well as
certain intangible assets including the eCOST.com trade name and website. This sale also resulted
in a non-cash goodwill impairment charge of $2.8 million, which is reflected in the December 2010
results.
As a result of this sale, we have modified our financial reporting results to reflect the majority
of the eCOST.com business activity, including this goodwill impairment charge as a single line item
in our statement of operations, labeled as income or loss from discontinued operations for each of
the periods presented.
In completing this discontinued operations analysis in accordance with GAAP, we are required to
exclude from our discontinued operation results certain ongoing revenue and costs that were
previously allocated to the eCOST.com business and financial results. These primarily included such
items as revenue, gross margin and costs applicable to the P&G store, which we continue to operate,
and certain facility and overhead related costs in California, Manila and Memphis that were
historically allocated to eCOST results thatll continue to be maintained going forward to support
our future Service Fee and Retail Connect business activities.
We have reclassified these ongoing revenue and costs as part of our PFSweb or Retail Connect
results in our consolidating financial presentation in this mornings press release, both in the
December quarter, as well as for all periods presented.
To provide you with additional insight into this modified financial results presentation, we have
provided a revised consolidating presentation for each of the quarterly periods of calendar year
2010, and certain periods in 2009.
One thing to note is that in addition to the discontinued operations presentation in both calendar
year 2010 and 2009 because eCOST business was not sold until February 2011, well continue to
reflect discontinued operation result in 2011 as well, especially in this first quarter.
Based on this new financial presentation, total consolidated revenue for PFSweb in the quarter
ended December 31, 2010, was $76.3 million, compared to $72.8 million reported in the fourth
quarter of 2009. This included an increase of more than 35% in Service Fee revenues to $21.7
million, compared with $16 million for the 2009 fourth quarter.
This increase is attributable to increased service fees generated from certain existing client
relationships as well as new clients, and this Service Fee growth is even more impressive
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considering that a prior contract with a technology manufacturing client that was not renewed
effective August of this year, represented nearly 13% of our prior year Service Fee.
For our Business and Retail Connect business segment, which as Mark mentioned, includes our
Supplies Distributors operations and results from our P&G operations, revenue was $46 million in
2010 as compared to $47.3 million for the 2009 fourth quarter, a slight decrease on a
year-over-year basis, but in line with prior quarter trends.
Gross profit for the fourth quarter 2010 increased to $8.9 million or 13.1% of net revenue
excluding pass-through revenue as compared to $7.8 million or 12.3% of net revenue excluding
pass-through revenue in the fourth quarter of 2009. This increase is primarily due to an increased
percentage of our revenue being generated from the higher margin Service Fee activity as compared
to prior year.
Our gross margin for the services business remained relatively stable, near 28%, which is within
our targeted 25% to 30% range. Our newly combined business in Retail Connect segment experienced a
decrease in margin in the December 2010 quarter as compared to the prior year, primarily due to the
Supplies Distributors subsidiary. We believe based on existing conditions that our future growth
margin for the Supplies Distributors business to business activity will trend closer to this lower
actual performance from the December quarter, but we are targeting to add new direct-to-consumer
clients into our inventory ownership model under Retail Connect, which are expected to operate at
higher gross margins in the future.
Our SG&A for the quarter was down approximately $0.8 million to $8.0 million as compared to $8.8
million for the same period a year ago. And with the combination of all these results, in the
fourth quarter our consolidated Adjusted EBITDA was $2.6 million versus $0.6 million in the prior
year period or a $2 million growth in Adjusted EBITDA in the fourth quarter. This significant
improvement on a year-over-year basis is primarily a reflection of the strong top line growth in
our services business combined with an ongoing focus on costs.
For the fourth quarter, net loss was $2.7 million or $0.22 per basic and diluted share, compared to
a net loss of approximately $0.9 million or $0.10 per basic and diluted share for the same period
last year. However as we discussed, our net loss for the fourth quarter of 2010 included a $3.2
million loss from discontinued operations related to eCOST.com, including a $2.8 million goodwill
impairment charge.
Now turning to the results for the full year, our consolidated revenue for calendar year 2010 was
$274.5 million compared to $267.9 million in 2009. This included a Service Fee revenue increase of
21% to $70.6 million compared with $58.6 million for 2009. Here again, the Service Fee growth is
somewhat masked by the fact that the prior year fee amount included fees from our prior contract
under a US government contract that was not renewed effective in April of 2009, and a full year
our technology manufacture client arrangement. As a result, actual growth in continuing existing
clients and new clients was much higher than this 21% overall result.
For our business in Retail Connect business segment, revenue was a $174.6 million in 2010 as
compared to $183 million in 2009, primarily due to softness in our Supplies Distributors
business-to-business subsidiary. While we currently expect that revenue from the Supplies
Distributors business will stay relatively flat or decrease slightly in 2011, this continues to be
an important part of our overall business operations and we are hopeful that new client activity in
our Retail Connect direct-to-consumer business will also contribute stronger results to the
combined business and retail segment Retail Connect segment in the future.
From a balance sheet standpoint, we continued to maintain solid working capital turnover results in
our various business segments. In addition, we continued to maintain a solid overall financial
position with total cash and restricted cash as of December 31, 2010 of approximately $20.3
million, which is relatively consistent with the September 2010 quarter.
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From a financing standpoint, we do have several of our debt facilities maturing at the end of this
month. We have been working through the renewal process with these vendors, and currently expect
that renewals will be completed soon.
Now, Id like to turn the call back over to Mark for some closing comments.
Mark C. Layton, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer
Thanks, Tom. So to recap, we currently believe PFSweb continues to have a lot of exciting things in
the pipeline that have us well-positioned for growth throughout the rest of 2011 and beyond. In
order to foster this growth and grow from our existing client programs, we are actively investing
in our business and will be expanding our operations in both the U.S. and in Europe. As I mentioned
in the opening, based on current client projections, deals we are implementing and new business
prospects. We are currently targeting Service Fee revenue growth of approximately 20% in 2011.
Combining this revenue growth with the targeted investments that we are planning to support for our
long-term initiatives, we are currently targeting a reported Adjusted EBITDA of between $6 million
and $7 million for 2011.
I look forward to updating you as we continue to ramp up client agreements and launch our services
solutions. This concludes our prepared comments for today and operator, well now be available for
questions.
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QUESTION AND ANSWER SECTION
Operator: Thank you. [Operator Instructions] Your first question comes from Mark Argento of
Craig-Hallum Capital.
<Q Mark Argento>: Yeah. Good morning, guys and congrats on a nice Q4.
<A Mark C. Layton>: Thanks, Mark.
<A Thomas J. Madden>: Thanks, Mark.
<Q Mark Argento>: When you look at the just to delve into the services business a
little bit more, very solid growth year-over-year, up over, it is what, 35%. I know you quantified,
Tom, that you had some customer attrition, roughly a 13% customer left. Could you just give me the
math? Do you have the math, the simple math on like a same store number excluding any customers
that essentially werent there by yearend, so whats kind of the organic growth rate?
<A Thomas J. Madden>: So for the quarter ended December, we had about $16 million of fees
in 2009 and included in that was approximately $2 million of fees applicable to the terminated
client relationship.
<Q Mark Argento>: Okay.
<A Thomas J. Madden>: The remaining number will be about $14 million and that would
compare to our 21 over $21 million number for 2010, so 50% growth.
<Q Mark Argento>: Got you. Okay. And if you look at the growth, some was of course you had
new customers come in new customers that you added during the period, and I think you said it
was 10 new customers that you had come online, how much was kind of the pace of business, you guys
are starting to grow that pace of business with customers that have been in the system for over a
year versus kind of new customers that you added, Im just trying to get a little bit better feel
of whats really driving the growth?
<A Thomas J. Madden>: Okay. So again in the quarter, in the December quarter, we out of
our $21.6 million, $21.7 million of revenue, we would have had about $5.5 million to $6 million of
new client activity there, and about $16 million of existing client activity. So that number that
we talked about earlier was $14 million being the base from last year, excluding the terminated
relationship. That $14 million grew to about $16 million, and then on top of that, we had about
$5.5 million of new client activity.
<Q Mark Argento>: Thats helpful. And then, Mark, when you guys are talking to the
pipeline number, the $50 million number, just refresh my memory, thats up from kind of what were
you seeing last year roughly?
<A Mark C. Layton>: Last quarter we were up $35 million is what we reported last quarter.
I dont have what we were in January last year offhand.
<Q Mark Argento>: I think it was kind of trending at that $50 million level or excuse me
at $35 million?
<A Mike Willoughby>: Yeah, $35 million to $40 million is where weve been at historically,
so this...
<Q Mark Argento>: So, thats popped up pretty markedly here over the last quarter in
particular. So any I mean is it just that you guys are getting more traction and getting more
looks with the RFPs or whats kind of the dynamic driving the pipeline there?
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<A Mark C. Layton>: Well, you got two components, theres more names in the pipeline than
what weve had in the past. I think weve taken a relatively conservative look as well at the names
that are in there and we have some nice deal size in there. Some of these newer industries,
particularly if you look at the size of the companies in the CPG industry, for example, some of
these deal sizes are very attractive in terms of scope.
<Q Mark Argento>: Right. When you guys are out when you think about business from a
customer perspective or size of business, do you kind of have a minimum like you need to see kind
of gross merchandise volume of $20 million, $50 million? When you kind of sit back and look at
where your sweet spot is, how big does that how big does the business need to be, chunks of
business for it to be profitable or make sense for you guys to be involved?
<A Michael Willoughby>: Hey Mark, this is Mike Willoughby. So we do have qualification
standards and to an extent they vary somewhat across the type of deal that were looking at. So our
traditional End2End direct-to-consumer deal with a brand, our qualification floor is in the $1.5
million to $2 million fee revenue size when theyre fully up and running and we expect from that
point to see a good organic growth rate coming off of those. So that would equate to somewhere
between $10 million to $25 million in online revenue for the brand as kind of the starting point
that gives you maybe an idea of the size deal thats in the sweet spot there.
The CPG deals tend to be quite a bit larger, and as Mark said, the scope of service is broader, the
sales cycle is also more lengthy and sometimes the buy/sell model or this Retail Connect or
Business Connect function is involved and that would show up partially as product revenue or
partially as fee revenue, but the size of that deal tends to be larger.
And then the final factor I would mention is that every year were looking for one to two or maybe
three at most opportunities where we see a brand thats emerging, that maybe a startup or it may be
a brand thats only a year or two old thats gotten traction in retail and doesnt have direct
consumer initiative or its very small, and in those scenarios, even though the online sales maybe
$5 million or less, we would sort of place a bet on that brand and deploy our End2End
infrastructure in a sort of out-of-the-box fashion with the reference app largely intact and really
look to try to hitch our wagon to one of these brands rapidly growing. And well look for maybe,
like you said, one to three of those every year and weve got a couple of those and I would put
Carters and OshKosh in that category. Were coming out no direct-to-consumer initiative launched
last March and as they publicly stated their results are way beyond their expectations as one of
those situations where we did place a bet turned out to be a very good bet.
<A Mark C. Layton>: Lot of these companies lot of these companies Mark have collected
great customer assets over the years in terms of customer relationship information but have never
directly sold to them in the past. So particularly when you look at a company like Carters, they
have done an outstanding job not only in their social apps that they had but in collecting customer
information even though they were previously not selling direct. That was a very valuable asset
that allowed that business to take off very quickly going forward. So when were looking for these
1 to 3 that Mike is talking about, when we find large companies that already have a great CRM
database out there to work with, those are the ones that are really attractive and many of the CPG
clients have that as well. So even though they are not selling direct, you got a good trampoline to
start with.
<Q Mark Argento>: Sure. Thats very helpful. And then lastly and Ill hop back into queue,
but you talked about or alluded to potentially a new pre-packaged food and beverage company, which
is a new area I know for you guys. Do you see that as a bigger opportunity and anything you could
kind of flush out there would be helpful?
<A Michael Willoughby>: So Mark, we really view that as a sub-category in the CPG area.
The characteristics of those kind of companies largely mirror what we see in the non-food side of
CPG,
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some of the same requirements and expectations. So it certainly does drive some variation in our
solution. Mark already mentioned the addition of a food grade facility thats built with the
requirements already in mind for having food products in place, but other than that other than a
few minor variations in the solution, the requirements are largely similar to other CPG
opportunities. So we see it as a good opportunity, the price point and the margins have to be
right, we have to be selective, but it certainly is part of our excitement around the CPG category.
<Q Mark Argento>: Is it like shelf stable product, or is it a refrigerated product, a
little of each, or...?
<A Michael Willoughby>: Currently, everything we are looking at in the pipeline is all
shelf stable product. It does not require refrigeration other than standard climate control.
<Q Mark Argento>: Got you.
<A Mark C. Layton>: It is a climate control facility. It has different standards related
to it than some of our what our clothing facility would have for example to it so and there are
some additional technology and operational requirements with it, lets say primarily in lot control
that we obviously dont see in fashion or in technology. Technology, you might see serial control
thats different, but we already had systems in place to be able to do with the lot control
features. So that was just pretty natural for us, is this particular part of the industry begins to
now embrace. I mean this is a late adoptor to eCommerce activity in terms of industry segments that
are out there. But as weve talked in the past, its a gigantic industry that probably will never
see the type of adoption percentages, penetration percentages that you see in technology or travel
or music, where those industries are maybe more than 50% of the penetration rate today, but the
industry size is so large, it is practical to think in the next decade that these industry segments
could approach 15% or 20% penetration rate, which would make them larger industries overall than
any other ones I previously mentioned.
<Q Mark Argento>: Great. Congrats on a good quarter guys. Thank you.
<A Mark C. Layton>: Thanks, Mark.
<A Michael Willoughby>: Thanks.
Operator: Your next question comes from Marco Rodriguez of Stonegate Securities.
<Q Marco Rodriguez>: Good morning guys. Thanks for taking my question.
<A Mark C. Layton>: Hi, Marco.
<Q Marco Rodriguez>: I was wondering, if you can first talk about the investments youre
going to be making in the first half, you did a nice job of providing the highlights as far as
where the money is going to be spent. Just wondering if you could perhaps quantify those dollar
amounts?
<A Mark C. Layton>: A lot of this is going to be attracting cost of goods. So you wont
see it from an SG&A standpoint to speak up, Marco, but let me let Tom give you more highlight
there.
<A Thomas J. Madden>: Okay. It would be a combination of cost factors, facility cost,
people cost that are going to be involved with this and especially in the first part of the year,
as we start ramping up some of the new clients and put in place some of the infrastructures for the
long-term initiatives, both for this year as well as for years going forward. The total amount of
those investments is probably in the $2 million to $3 million range in total across all of the
different geographies. In addition, we do have certain costs that were previously incurred by our
eCOST business operations that are getting reallocated to our PFSweb operation on a going forward
basis for certain things like allocations of no operations or Memphis facility and that type of
stuff. So you
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will see on a year-over-year basis a slight an increase in some of our cost comparisons to
reflect these changes in the business.
<Q Marco Rodriguez>: Okay. So it kind of sounds like its going to mostly in the cost of
sales line item, are you going to see...?
<A Thomas J. Madden>: Actually, it will be a combination both in cost of goods sold. Some
of the stuff some of that will end up in start-up activity, where some of the initial contract
period may be a little bit lower gross margin than what we would expect on a long-term basis after
we get contract up and running properly, but itd also be reflected in the SG&A area as well.
<Q Marco Rodriguez>: Okay. So, from a cost from a gross margin perspective, for the
first couple quarters of 2011, it kind of sounds like we should be expecting a slight down hit, is
that fair?
<A Thomas J. Madden>: Yes.
<Q Marco Rodriguez>: Okay. And then on the SG&A side, obviously you did a great job of
helping us see the quarterly trend since 2010 by putting out the eCOST. We should obviously as well
expect a slight uptick as well from these investments that youre making?
<A Thomas J. Madden>: Thats correct.
<Q Marco Rodriguez>: Okay. And then with the eCOST now divested, can you help us think a
little about your working capital accounts. Is there going to be any sort of an impact?
<A Thomas J. Madden>: The eCOST didnt have a significant amount of impact on the balance
sheet. By the end of the year, we had couple of million dollars of inventory and some receivables,
payables. It actually it did operate with a positive working capital component to it, because of
the fact that we our historical inventory turns and receivable turns were generally less than
our total payable time period.
So we did have some positive cash flow from the business just because of the way the working
capital dynamics that work. However, its not a significant real meaningful piece of our total cash
position. I think we had couple of million dollars of cash or so on the books of eCOST at the end
of the year. So cash may go down a little bit as we go forward, but thats also offset partially by
the cash infusion that we got from the sale of the intangibles.
<Q Marco Rodriguez>: Okay. And then in regard to your pipeline of new business, I was
wondering if you might be able to provide maybe a little bit more color in regard to your
expectations as far as signing some of these clients, any kind of timing that you might be able to
provide would be helpful?
<A Mike Willoughby>: So, generally speaking, our time to on-board new clients is four to
six months for an End2End program. It tends to be on the long end of that range, to six months when
we have a creative agency involved helping the client to redesign the website. So a couple of
months of that timeframe were kind of working with an agency to design and plan the re-platform.
If the clients already had that work done or largely theyre just moving a site over with the look
and feel intact, then it could be on the short end of that range, the four-month kind of timeframe.
So, we are talking about in a given quarter that we have a new agreement with the client that weve
done in the previous quarter, you should typically expect that the next quarter or the quarter
after that we would say that weve launched the site based on that typical range.
<Q Marco Rodriguez>: Okay. And in terms of the amount of clients that are in your $50
million plus pipeline currently, can you provide a quantification there?
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<A Mike Willoughby>: Well I suppose what I could do is to discuss how the categories or
the vertical markets they tend to fall in. Our number one vertical market has been over the past
three or four years the fashion apparel and accessories. And the majority of the clients in our
pipeline are still in that category, so thats definitely our most active and most lucrative
vertical market. Right now, I would categorize that the second category is probably a pretty
virtual tie between the CPG companies both the non-food and the food packaged goods categories and
the health and beauty vertical market. So, between those three, you probably have 90% or so of the
prospects in our pipeline and the remainder would be B2B opportunities or product categories
outside of those three verticals like toys or consumer electronics.
<Q Marco Rodriguez>: Helpful. And then, lastly if you can kind of talk a little bit more
about your sales and marketing. Are you seeing more people come to you asking for that End2End
solution kind of the soup-to-nuts, if you will, or are people just kind of coming or not sure
exactly what to do with our eCommerce solution, help us out?
<A Michael Willoughby>: What we are seeing typically now is that companies want to
understand all of the alternatives that they have. And so we are seeing less of preconceived notion
or assumptions coming in that they would like to have the contract relationship one way or the
other. And so, we are in a position now because of the flexibility of our solution to talk to them
about the single provider or the one throat-to-choke benefit that comes from that End2End solution.
But were also able to say if you want to contract directly with Demandware, for instance, or you
want to use your in-house fulfillment capabilities, how easy it is for us to offer our solution in
à la carte fashion and create the same kind of End2End synergies by integrating with another
third-party or an internal capability. So just being able to speak to that flexibility without sort
of railroading the prospect down a certain avenue, I think, gives us a lot of power in our sales
cycle.
<Q Marco Rodriguez>: Thanks a lot guys.
<A Mark C. Layton>: Hey Marco, one thing I want to clarify real quick and Ill let Tom
just give you a little bit more detail on that, back to your first question in the terms of the
magnitude of the investments we are marking. We have got roughly $18 million. Well, go ahead, Tom.
<A Thomas J. Madden>: Yeah. Weve got about as Mark indicated, our targeted growth is
about 20% on our Service Fee business. So if you took that 20% on our $70 million Service Fee
revenue base this year, thats about a $14 million increase in Service Fee revenues would be what
we would be targeting. Of that $14 million, we would be expecting to earn a gross margin of 25% to
30%. So were going to have the incremental cost of goods sold for that new business activity. What
my point was earlier was on top of that normal cost of goods sold component, we expect to have an
additional several million dollars of cost that were making from an investment standpoint in the
business just for not only our initiative this year as well as our long-term growth.
<A Mark C. Layton>: Right. So you take the $10 million or so cost of goods in that number
plus a couple of million more, the magnitude answer I think you were after in terms of the
investments that were making in people and infrastructure and so on and so forth is well in excess
of $10 million for the year.
<Q Marco Rodriguez>: Okay. So the revenue increase is going to offset the increase in
cost?
<A Mark C. Layton>: Thats correct.
<Q Marco Rodriguez>: Got it. Great. Thanks a lot guys.
Operator: Your next question comes from Alex Silverman of Special Situations Fund.
<Q Alex Silverman>: Hey, guys. How are you?
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<A Mark C. Layton>: Hey, Alex.
<A Michael Willoughby>: Hey, Alex.
<Q Alex Silverman>: Lots of my questions have been answered. I have a few technicals. For
2011, what do you project your CapEx needs are?
<A Thomas J. Madden>: We do expect our capital expenditure needs to be higher than where
they have been over the last couple of years. Weve generally been operating at about a $4 million
level in the last, I think, both 2009 and 2010. We expect that number to go up this year to
probably between $7 million to $9 million. Some of that is expected to be financed with leases and
that type of stuff. So, our cash CapEx number in total was expected to be probably closer to the $4
million to $5 million that weve had previously.
<Q Alex Silverman>: And is that equipment or is that bricks and mortar or a combination?
<A Thomas J. Madden>: Its a combination as well as some of that relates to start-up
activity for the new client implementations.
<Q Alex Silverman>: Okay, how much in leases and unused properties left from eCOST? I
mean, I understand that youre going to be moving Philippine operations over to the core business
and such. But do you have property in California that was old eCOST property that is no longer
being used?
<A Mark C. Layton>: Well, weve got a small 5,000 square foot office facility out there
that were in the process of considering refocusing for a call center there. Im trying to get this
Dallas area one sorted out first. So, we do need to try to make some additions to our redundancy
capabilities. The weather patterns this year kind of made us understand there is probably some
improvements we can make in that a little bit. So we may use that office for those purposes, which
is the reason they didnt go into discontinued operations. So, we havent made a final decision
about that. Thats really the only physical plant thats left from that piece.
<Q Alex Silverman>: Okay. So, there is nothing that needs to be subleased out?
<A Thomas J. Madden>: No. The other space that eCOST was using in Memphis, it was a
relatively small footprint and that will be reallocated to other new clients. And then in
Philippines, we talked about earlier while there was an allocation in the past of that total
facility both between PFS and eCOST that full facility that will be allocated to PFS, utilized by
PFS for some of its new activity.
<A Mark C. Layton>: Yeah. Unrelated over the last year, weve really transformed that
middle operation. It was primarily eCOST 18 months ago. It became primarily PFS by, I dont know,
the third quarter or so last year as we ramped up our technology development there.
<Q Alex Silverman>: Okay. On a continuing operations basis, can you give us a sense for
2011, what do you expect depreciation, amortization and stock comp to be?
<A Thomas J. Madden>: Yep. Give me one second here. So, our D&A estimate will be somewhere
in line with this years number. Ive got may be a little bit of an increase somewhere between $6.5
million to $7 million. Our stock comp expense is also expected to increase somewhat. It was about
$800,000 in 2010. Expect it to increase to about a $1.2 million or so in 2011.
<Q Alex Silverman>: Okay. Looking at your pipeline, how much of your pipeline are folks
that have something up and running with one of your competitors are looking to move over to you,
and how much of it is sort of greenfield?
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<A Michael Willoughby>: Well, I would say that the majority of the prospects in our
pipeline currently have an online initiative. Its difficult to say what percentage is with a
competitor or with a third-party versus in-house. Id have to go back and look at that. My gut feel
on that is that over 50% of what we see in the pipeline is with another third-party today. So, they
would be re-platforming from either a group of separate providers like a 3PL [third party
logistics] plus a call center provider with software platform thrown in. So, its not End2End or
with one of our competitors that offers a total solution.
<Q Alex Silverman>: Okay. And my last question, on the last call, I think you confirmed
with Argento that your pipeline was syndicated at $35 million; its grown by 15 on a net basis.
Obviously, some you want, some you didnt, plus youve added stuff on top. Can you give us a sense
of how much youve taken out of the pipeline over either in the fourth quarter or even better in
the first quarter and the fourth quarter without naming names?
<A Mike Willoughby>: Yeah. This is going to be sort of a rough number. We probably if
you look at the net to get to the 50, we probably took Id say 15 to 20 out. There was one fairly
large deal in there that was a fulfillment-only kind of a 3PL deal that was pretty big deal in that
pipeline. So, it made a dent as that went out. We did not win that piece of business. It went to a
sort of commodity 3PL provider. So, ended up being I think a lower margin than we have an appetite
for but it was pretty big number in the pipeline. So, say, 15 to 20 that went out.
<Q Alex Silverman>: So, 30 gross added?
<A Mike Willoughby>: About right.
<Q Alex Silverman>: Okay. And of the 15 to 20 that went out, would you say two-thirds were
lost and one-third won, if you include that big deal that you passed on?
<A Mike Willoughby>: If you include that big deal we passed on thats probably close to
right number, somewhere between two-thirds and three-quarters or something like that.
<Q Alex Silverman>: Okay, very helpful. Thank you for this help. I appreciate it.
<A Mark C. Layton>: Thanks, Alex.
Operator: Your next question comes from George Walsh of Gilford Securities.
<Q George Walsh>: Morning gentlemen. Congratulations on the quarter.
<A Mark C. Layton>: Thank you, George.
<A Thomas J. Madden>: Thank you, George.
<Q George Walsh>: Just a couple of balance sheet items, a little bit would be the lines of
credit. It was touched on earlier, but I just want to go in to that a bit more. With the
divestiture of eCOST, is there an ability to consolidate those lines or is that something youre
looking to do or are you more or less happy with the structure you have?
<A Thomas J. Madden>: Were looking at consolidating in the future. There still is a need
in our ongoing Retail Connect business that have an asset-based lending facility to support some of
the working capital need of that business. So we do expect that facility for that subsidiary
actually renews in May, so its a little bit later in the process. We do expect to try to renew
that component probably at a smaller dollar amount because its not necessary to have such a big
amount right now.
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But the other facilities we expect to maintain is relatively similar renewal amount with. And at
this point in time, we feel like weve got the right facilities and the right subsidiaries. We will
continue to take a look at whether or not presenting a consolidated especially U.S. facility makes
sense for us going forward.
<Q George Walsh>: Okay. Also I noticed that the Mississippi Finance Corp bonds of $1.6
million that matures in April of 2011. Is that something that you just pay off or is that something
that can be renewed or what do you think is going?
<A Thomas J. Madden>: That facility weve had annual payments on that of about $800,000
per year, in fact, early January of each year. So that $1.6 million at the end of December has
already been reduced on to $800,000 and that is supported by a letter of credit that has already
been renewed and expanded or extended until 2012.
<Q George Walsh>: Okay. So you dont have to pay off that balance?
<A Thomas J. Madden>: Not the remaining amount. Again, we did pay off $800,000 of it in
January as we have historically.
<Q George Walsh>: Okay. And with Q4 for the Services business, did seasonality play a big
effect in helping or was it just the new customers ramping up and just hitting that quarter?
<A Mark C. Layton>: Yeah, I will take that sorry. The nature of our new a lot of our
new clients is a heavier fourth quarter component than we have had in the past. So there is clearly
a seasonal component in that and thats going to continue.
<Q George Walsh>: Okay. And is that the fashion apparel because I was thinking that maybe
some of that would maybe have some of the opposite effect than would the CPG in particular?
<A Mark C. Layton>: No, its pretty much all of them have a fourth quarter peak. Weve got
some clients that have a little bit of midsummer peak as well, but nothing related in contrast to
the fourth quarter. So you will continue to see a fourth quarter bubble.
<Q George Walsh>: Okay. So the seasonality would be pretty much, I guess, the quarter
the fourth quarter will be the best. Now this first quarter will probably be the weakest and then
it kind of ramps up through the year?
<A Thomas J. Madden>: Thats correct.
<Q George Walsh>: Okay, very good. And what else was there? In the Services, what is the
breakdown in terms of the percentage relative to revenues of the business-to-consumer and
business-to-business?
<A Thomas J. Madden>: For 2010 in rough numbers, business-to-business represented about
30% of our activity and business-to-consumer was the remainder. Those are rough numbers, so about a
one-third and two-thirds in 2010.
<A Mark C. Layton>: I dont think thats what he is asking. Are you asking about our,
basically that new segment that I talked about, George?
<Q George Walsh>: No, no, that was it, just in the services division, how that broke down.
The other is also, could you clarify once again just to be clear the what was the name of that
the new...
<A Thomas J. Madden>: Retail Connect.
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<A Mark C. Layton>: Yeah.
<Q George Walsh>: Yeah, Retail Connect, that is going to be Supplies Distributors plus
clients like P&G?
<A Mark C. Layton>: Thats correct. Yeah, so basically were using a buy/sell model or a
product ownership model, well combine that together in that piece of the segment going forward to
the extent that right now the retail component of it or the consumer piece of it is relatively
small in contrast to the size of the business-to-business piece. As that retail component grows, we
may break it out again and just report business-to-business and retail separately. Right now, it
didnt make any sense to do that. So, youll see basically two key segments going forward; the
PFSweb Services segment, which well target 25 to 30 points gross margin on and then the what we
call Business and Retail Connect segment, which is the buy/sell or product ownership model. So
youll see product revenue in that segment and youll see margins in the low single digits for now.
So...
<Q George Walsh>: Okay. But its the same business right?
<A Mark C. Layton>: Yeah, it is. Yeah, were just repackaging the thing and then whats
left of the eCOST subsidiary that we renamed PFS Retail Connect is not that large at this point.
So, it just makes sense given the similarity of the buy/sell model to segment report those
together.
<Q George Walsh>: Okay. Very good.
<A Michael Willoughby>: And George just to add a little bit to that, remember that with
these relationships such as the P&G relationship, certain activities that we do for them are
billable under our normal fee basis, such as delivering platform and marketing services. So if
youre trying to sort of size the P&G deal, you have to put the two things together and that we
believe will be consistent with the CPG engagements where certain activities including possibly
some of the product sales would be on a consignment basis and would be under the traditional
Service Fee revenue column and certain activities in that buy/sell. So dont try to back into the
P&G deal just by looking at that one aspect.
<A Mark C. Layton>: Yeah, I mean...
<Q George Walsh>: Okay, thats good. So there are service elements and the inventory
buy/sell elements, Mark?
<A Mark C. Layton>: Yeah, if you want us to confuse you more, the other thing that Ill
add is things as well as that a lot of these CPG clients like the concept of launching using the
buy/sell model, but over time may transition into the services model in change. So the product
revenue would go away. Were pretty agnostic in terms of how that happens. We should be able to
earn a similar gross margin, or similar operating income regardless of which model that they use
out of that. So, I think you will see lifecycles of clients change and move between those things as
they go forward, sometimes clients that are all services come with a project that the easiest way
for us to implement its in a buy/sell model. So, its just the flexibility of what were doing and
it will be reported in both places. So, product revenue can be a bit misleading in terms of looking
at that component of it. Id focus on Service Fee revenue growth and then on operating income or
EBITDA, Adjusted EBITDA performance. So...
<Q George Walsh>: Okay. And last quarter I think you mentioned a little bit the there
might be some acquisitions you could be looking at in terms of adding to your capabilities on the
services side, is there anything on that front to report are you thinking there?
<A Mark C. Layton>: Nothing in the hopper at this point. I think Ive talked a little bit
about the interactive marketing services area, or a piece of business that we began to call digital
connect now, but its our digital agency piece. I think there if we found the right opportunity in
there, thats an
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area where we looked to try to expand some of the services that we offer, but at this point the
model that were using where were aligning ourselves with best-of-breed providers in that area,
and entering into kind of wholesale relationships with them, where we are in a mark up on their
fees is working well for us.
<Q George Walsh>: Okay. Is there anything with mobile capabilities that you guys have to
add to what youre doing or is this anything an initiative that you guys could be working on
there?
<A Michael Willoughby>: If you notice, George, from the press release we just put out
yesterday, we launched the kate spade site simultaneously with traditional browser-based website
plus a mobile site. The mobile capabilities we deployed are out of the box with Demandware, so it
makes very easy for us to simultaneously launch the site both ways. The other thing we are seeing
just to hitchhike on that a little bit is an increased interest in multichannel operations where
youve got a synchronization across your brick and mortar channel plus your eCommerce channel, so
some of the features around pick up at store, return to store, even ship from store, those sort of
things, were starting to see more and more and we are deploying capabilities to really answer
those needs for our clients as well.
<Q George Walsh>: Okay, very good. All right. Thanks a lot.
<A Michael Willoughby>: Thanks, George.
Operator: At this time, there are no further questions. Ill turn it back to management for
closing remarks.
Mark C. Layton, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer
Okay. We appreciate everybodys time this morning and well talk to you next quarter. Thank you.
Operator: Thank you for participating in todays conference call. You may now disconnect.
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