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FORM 8-K
CURRENT REPORT
PURSUANT TO SECTION 13 OR 15(D) OF
THE SECURITIES EXCHANGE ACT OF 1934
DATE OF REPORT (DATE OF EARLIEST EVENT REPORTED): March 25, 2010
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INFORMATION TO BE INCLUDED IN THE REPORT
ITEM 8.01. Other Events
On March 25, 2010, PFSweb, Inc. hosted a conference call announcing its financial results for
the quarter ended December 31, 2009. Attached to this current report on Form 8-K is a copy of the
related conference call transcript dated March 25, 2010. The information in this Report on Form
8-K, and the exhibit hereto, shall not be deemed filed for purposes of Section 18 of the Exchange
Act or otherwise subject to the liability of that Section.
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Pursuant to the requirements of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, the registrant has duly caused
this report to be signed on its behalf by the undersigned hereunto duly authorized.
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Operator: Good morning. My name is Christy and I will be your conference operator today. At
this time I would like to welcome everyone to the PFSweb Fourth Quarter 2009 Earnings Conference
Call. [Operator Instructions] After the speakers remarks there will be a question-and-answer
session. [Operator Instructions] Thank you. I would now like to turn the call over to Garth Russell
with KCSA Strategic Communications. Please go ahead, sir.
Garth Russell, Vice President in Investor Relations, KCSA Strategic Communications
Thank you, Christy. Before turning the call over to management, I would like to make the following
remarks concerning forward-looking statements. All statements in this conference call and other
historical facts are forward-looking statements. The words anticipate, believe, estimate, expect,
intend, will, guidance, confident and other similar expressions typically are used to identify
forward-looking statements.
These forward-looking statements are not guarantees of future performance and involve and are
subject to risks, uncertainties and other factors that may affect PFSwebs business, financial
condition and operating results which include, but are not limited to the risks, factors and other
qualifications contained in PFSwebs annual report on Form 10-K, quarterly reports on Form 10-Q and
other reports filed by PFSweb with the SEC to which your attention is directed. Therefore actual
outcomes and results may differ materially from what is expressed or implied by these
forward-looking statements.
PFSweb expressly disclaims any intent or obligation to update these forward-looking statements.
During this call we may also present certain non-GAAP financial measures, such as EBITDA, adjusted
EBITDA, non-GAAP net income, free cash flow, merchandise sales and certain ratios that use these
measures.
In our press release with the financial tables issued today which is located on our website at
pfsweb.com, youll find our definitions of these non-GAAP financial measures, a reconciliation of
these non-GAAP financial measures with the closest GAAP measures and a discussion about why we
think these non-GAAP measures are relevant. These financial measures are included for the benefit
of investors and should be considered in addition to and not instead of GAAP measures. At this
point, it is now my pleasure to turn the call over to Mr. Mark Layton, Chairman and CEO of PFSweb.
Mark, the floor is yours.
Mark C. Layton, Chairman, Senior Partner and Chief Executive Officer
Thank you, Garth. Good morning, everyone. Id like to welcome you to our 2009 fourth quarter and
our year end conference call. As usual, today with me is Tom Madden, our CFO; Mike Willoughby, our
President of our Services Group. Ill begin with an overview of our financial results and a little
bit of highlights, what shaped the year for 2009 and then Mike and Tom will have some prepared
comments. And after that well be available for questions.
So exciting times, as you review our results that came out today and the information that well
provide you herein, we believe were entering a new era for PFSweb, an era we believe will be
characterized by stronger growth, improved financial performance and market dominance in a number
of evolving web commerce market segments.
Much of the activity and progress that weve been discussing on our calls over the past year which
is being led by our end-to-end eCommerce services offering has now begun to materialize. Were
showing consistent wins versus our competition, particularly with companies who own families of
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brands. And we believe we will begin to see the financial impact of this activity in our numbers
towards the end of 2010 and into 2011.
While we certainly have challenges to overcome, including the sluggish economy and loss of revenue
from the non-renewals of certain contracts over the past year, we are very excited to see a new
wave of substantial and sustainable growth opportunities and a number of rapidly evolving eCommerce
product segments, as well as many international markets. And Mike will give you a little bit more
information on that in a few minutes.
As I look back through 2009, Id like to give you a few points that I think are the highlights of
our business for the year. First, the Services business with its end-to-end eCommerce offering has
truly redefined our role and market and escalated our service offering from being a piece of a
puzzle to a full solution for our customers and potential customers. As Mike will discuss, this has
allowed us to become significantly more competitive in bids for new customers and opened a larger
overall market opportunity for us as we look to the future.
For instance, our recently announced agreement with Proctor & Gamble for the P&G eStore was
possible because of this end-to-end solution. As you might expect, the announcement of this
agreement has garnered significant attention for our services amongst many potential customers,
particularly in the fashion and consumer packaged goods, or CPG market segments, such now that we
have companies proactively reaching out to us.
Second, several new client agreements have ramped up over the past 12 to 18 months, giving us a
significantly more diverse and stable revenue base for the Service Fee business than we had just
even a year ago. These new clients have included the launch of programs for Proctor & Gamble,
Luxotticas Group Sunglass Hut, Sephora and the Army Air Force Exchange Services amongst those that
we can name. Further, we have finalized and launched a master agreement with a luxury goods
retailer for multiple brands and also another iconic brand name that has not yet been disclosed.
Third, as you look at our financial results for the fourth quarter youll see that eCOST.com
achieved a positive net income result for the fourth quarter of the year. This was possible after
we substantially increased the number of products, expanded in the new product segments, like home
and sporting goods, developed promotional marketing campaigns, and nurtured an ever-expanding group
of repeat shoppers through our special membership programs and marketing activities over the last
three years.
Further, we are gaining exponential benefit from the linkage of the eCOST.com business with our
PFSweb services agreement, as we share the experiences from pioneering in the interactive marketing
and other web retail services and mold them into our range of PFSweb services offerings. And Ill
have a little more information on that in the eCOST segment of the call here in a couple of
minutes.
And fourth, as a look back at 2009, Im actually very proud of our group and in the business model
flexibility that we created as you look at the cost containment and rationalization measures we
implemented during the recession this past year. Its led us to identifying new ways to streamline
our business and to provide us with we believe are even greater abilities to leverage our structure
to minimize costs as we grow in the future.
As you look at our 2009 results, youll see a reduction of more than $7 million in our SG&A levels
and spending levels as a result of the various actions that we took last year to react to client
non-renewals and also obviously the sluggish economic environment. As a result, we were able to
report positive free cash flow for 2009 which was the objective that we stated there in the year.
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As you see the numbers today, we reported $3.7 million of positive free cash flow for 2009 and a
$4.2 million adjusted EBITDA performance for the year. So with those four points as the highlight
for 2009 as a backdrop, wed like now to kind of get into the individual business segments and give
you a little bit more details. Ill turn the call now over to Mike wholl provide you some
information on the Services business specifically. Michael?
Michael Willoughby, Senior Partner, President PFSweb Services Division
Thanks, Mark, and good morning, everyone. Id like to remind you that before I begin commenting
with specifics, that when Im referring to the Services business segment, Im including both our
Supplies Distributors unit and our PFS Service Fee business, since both of these businesses really
have the same essential operating business model but with a different underlying financial model.
As Mark indicated earlier, our Service Fee business is experiencing some real traction in the
marketplace, and were very excited about our end-to-end solution and how the best-in-class
features of that offering coupled with the successful launches of our clients websites, have
positioned us to be a leader in the industry. As a result, we are in the best position ever to
capitalize on our robust pipeline of new business.
The value of our new business pipeline is currently estimated to be over $37 million in
client-projected annual contract value. And this is after weve successfully closed on several new
business agreements including the P&G deal. We also hope to see organic growth from our current
clients as the economy continues to improve, which coupled with the new business were adding,
should accelerate our recovery and allow us to further leverage our world-class infrastructure.
One of the many potential drivers for new business is the expansion of consumer packaged good
retailers and manufacturers selling products such as household cleaners and beauty supplies,
diapers, et cetera, online. And we believe were just seeing the start of this trend with CPG
manufacturers venturing directly online in a significant way for the first time. We believe the
innovation that will occur as a result of the investments that are being made by some of the larger
CPG manufacturers in eCommerce will drive a significant increase in the online sales of CPG
throughout the industry.
Today, CPG accounts for a small fraction of the overall online sales when you compare to mature
product categories such as consumer electronics and sporting goods, books, travel, fragrance and
beauty and toys. But once consumers begin seriously buying these everyday types of products online,
we believe the CPG category will mature online and could end up being one of the largest components
of the eCommerce market.
We believe that we are uniquely positioned with the necessary capabilities with our end-to-end
solution and with our extensive eCommerce experience to capitalize on this trend. In addition, our
agreement with P&G to develop and deploy the eStore provides us with the ability to be one of the
leaders in this rapidly growing industry. And we can help pioneer the evolution of retail sales for
this category. In short we believe our timing couldnt be any better than what it has been.
With regard to the soft launch in the initial operation of the eStore since January, I think its
safe to say that both PFSweb and P&G are very pleased with how quickly the initiative has come
together. And were effectively offering a very comprehensive set of CPG merchandise through a
best-in-class website that contains a number of very innovative features. And while this site is
currently offered only to a select group of Proctor & Gamble and PFSweb employees, weve used the
experience of this soft launch to further refine the site and prepare the program for public launch
this spring.
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As indicated in our January press release regarding the eStore, Proctor & Gamble views this
opportunity primarily as a learning lab environment where we can drive innovation and online sales
at CPG, including testing various online marketing programs, product packaging, website features,
product fulfillment options, customer care and social networking integration among other things.
And information that we learn from this initiative will be shared with P&Gs channel partners in
order to elevate the merchandising and sale of Proctor & Gamble products online regardless of the
identity of the retailer and to better respond to the end consumer.
In addition to equipping P&G with best-in-class eCommerce capabilities and providing P&G channel
partners with vital information to help them maximize online sales of CPG, we believe the eStore is
a great example of the integration of our expansive eCommerce end-to-end service offering with our
eCOST direct-to-consumer retail business. And Mark will have more comments on that in the eCOST
section. I hope to be able to give you a further update on the P&G relationship and the eStore
initiative next quarter and more good news there.
Moving to other new business agreements that were either ramped up programs or were signed in 2009,
it was a busy year. As Mark mentioned, we now have programs for Luxottica Group Sunglass Hut and
Sephora, AAFES or the Army & Air Force Exchange Service. We have a master agreement with a luxury
goods retailer for multiple brands, an iconic brand name apparel client with a site just launched
this week as well as a business-to-business eCommerce services agreement with a division of a large
Fortune 100 company.
And Id like to take the time to provide a few details on these individual programs. For the Army &
Air Force Exchange Service, were supporting the printed exchange AAFES catalog as well as their
online store. Our customized solution includes warehousing and order fulfillment services and the
technology services required to create multiple interfaces with AAFES systems. Were very excited
about this new program and we expect to benefit from organic growth of the program as well as from
incremental new opportunities with AAFES.
Next we launched a highly customized B2B eCommerce solution along with customer care and financial
services for a single division of a large Fortune 100 company. Specifically, were supporting a
division of the company that sells consumer products to small businesses, and were very excited
about this large contract.
Most recently, we signed an agreement and started the design of the complete end-to-end eCommerce
solution for a leading board sports brand, taking their apparel and accessories business online for
the first time. We expect the official launch of their eCommerce site to occur in July of 2010, and
as such we plan on announcing the agreement formally in the coming months.
Finally, we have also signed and implemented a new end-to-end contract with a leading apparel brand
for infants and small children. We successfully launched this multi-brand site earlier this week,
taking this iconic brand online for the first time. This is an end-to-end eCommerce deal for
multiple brands, leveraging all the components of our end-to-end program, including our
Demandware eCommerce platform, our Logistics and Fulfillment services, High-Touch Customer Care,
Financial services and our Interactive Marketing services.
As Ive indicated in the past, we will formally announce specific new agreements by name as were
permitted by our clients. However our clients are often hesitant to disclose their decision to
outsource major portions of their operation and were sensitive to their wishes, as we back up our
commitment to be the brand behind the worlds leading brands.
I think these exciting new business engagements illustrate the success weve had this year in
bidding on new client agreements with our end-to-end solution. We believe this solution is uniquely
positioned in the industry and no other provider that were aware of provides such a completely
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branded solution that offers a single, solid global infrastructure with tremendous leverage and
economies of scale in the way that we do.
To summarize, weve made some important advances for our business over the past year that are very
exciting. Weve stepped up to the challenges that we face. The recent round of new client programs
rolled out, or are in the process of being rolled out this year, as well as our pipeline of pending
proposals demonstrates the strong demand for our global solution, both in the U.S. and in European
markets.
By utilizing our global eCommerce solution, our market-dominating brands are now empowered to
quickly and aggressively tap into new growth opportunities. And they can maximize their existing
online channel much more effectively than was previously possible with either an in-house solution
or with competing outsource solutions. So once again were very excited about where we are and the
year that weve had. Were looking forward to the future. And for some highlights from the
eCOST.com business, Im going to turn the floor back over to Mark. Mark?
Mark C. Layton, Chairman, Senior Partner and Chief Executive Officer
Okay. Thanks, Mike. Lets talk just for a few minutes about the eCOST business. That youll see
throughout the call and our comments today, were increasingly finding ways to leverage the
investment that we made in the eCOST business into new service offerings and the businesses are
really becoming very closely linked in terms of the activities that were performing across the
line. Also as I mentioned earlier, eCOST reported its first quarter of profitability in the fourth
quarter of 2009. This is the first quarter of profitability since the acquisition of the business
that we made in 2006. Were obviously very encouraged by the financial trends were seeing for the
eCOST.com business, since this is the fifth consecutive quarter of improved online results, and now
breaking into profitability.
And probably most important point to remember is that we achieved this milestone in a very soft
economic situation. So as such, were very excited about the potential thats there and further
through the intangible benefits that were getting in terms of sharing our pioneering and
development activity that were doing at eCOST with our Services business. Certainly theres more
opportunity and things that we can improve on, but we feel like were in a really good position as
the economy begins to recover this year, hopefully.
For those of you who have been with us a while, you recognize that these results at eCOST were only
possible after a significant transformation period over the past several years. Just to recap, the
changes that have been made on the eCOST business include:
First of all bringing the eCOST.com business onto the PFSweb platform and developing an end-to-end
solution for this business like we would any service fee client in our Services business. This has
allowed us to synergize many operational, technology and financial areas of the business and reduce
operating costs significantly overall.
Secondly, weve substantially expanded the mix of products primarily through virtual warehouse
agreements, which offer us significant advantages, such as no inventory risk, allowing us to expand
also allowing us to expand into a number of new product categories, including house wares,
sporting goods, office supplies, all with an eye towards driving additional revenue opportunities
and obviously higher gross margin percentage for the business on an overall basis.
Third, weve made some substantial investments in new technologies in the business, including
systems that accurately track sales and customers and various different metrics in the customer
acquisition model. Many of the activities there are things now that are bundled together and were
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the seeds of our Interactive Marketing Services division that weve launched at PFS and become part
of the retail services piece thats the linkage between the PFS and eCOST businesses.
Implementing innovative interactive programs that have attracted a greater number of new and repeat
customers at a lower cost of acquisition. If you recall in this business, weve reduced the cost of
customer acquisition to an average of about probably 5 to $6 overall now for new customer costs
that were previously was in excess of $20. That makes a significant difference in the overall
financial model of the business. And weve done this through programs like our membership programs,
our Platinum Club membership, and other promotional programs such as Secret Sale, that was launched
this past holiday season and Outrageous Offer which was launched in late 2008.
All of these are private sale exclusive club programs that are showing significant success in the
industry and much, much higher repeat purchasing patterns from customers. So we will continue to
make those kinds of investments that grow those areas of our business because the financial
characteristics of the business are quite attractive.
Clearly, theres still a lot of work to do. We definitely want to continue to grow revenue on a
more aggressive basis because we put ourselves in the position where we want to grow the bottom
line and we believe that can be done through the continued streamlining of the business processes
and functions of an eCOST that have allowed us to lower operating cost substantially. We believe
this bodes well for us in the future as the economy rebounds and we do find new innovative ways to
leverage our web retailing capabilities and our services offering. We believe we can support
substantial growth to the eCOST division without material increases in SG&A, allowing us attractive
financial returns as we look to the future for this business.
In summary, eCOST is moving forward in a very positive direction. We have many ways to leverage the
intellect and operational capabilities of eCOST.coms segment into other areas of our business,
providing us substantial and tangible value beyond the positive financial contribution trend that
weve seen in the business over the past year and a bit.
So with that information, let me now turn the call over to Tom wholl get into some details on the
overall financial results for the quarter and the year, and then well be available for questions
after that. Tom?
Thomas J. Madden, Senior Partner, Chief Financial Officer and Chief Accounting Officer
Thank you, Mark, and good morning, everyone.
Well as Mark and Mike have both alluded to, I am also pleased with the progress that PFSweb made
this quarter and for the year in our business and financial results. We faced important challenges
early this year with the loss of the U.S. government clients and the global economic recession.
While we knew that both of these challenges would have a material impact on our business, we also
trusted that we had a financially sound business remaining that we would be able to grow and
support our operations moving forward.
Over the past year, we have taken a number of positive steps toward improving our short and
long-term financial results. This has occurred through a balancing act of reducing and closely
monitoring costs, while at the same time making the right investments to support our future growth
objectives. While our revenue is down on a year-over-year basis, we have made significant
adjustments to cost.
First, we acted quickly upon eliminating our direct costs supporting the lost Service Fee business.
In addition we have also significantly reduced our SG&A cost infrastructure. Our consolidated SG&A
costs were down approximately $2 million or nearly 15% for the December quarter as
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same period a year ago, and on a year-to-date basis SG&A is down approximately 7.1 million as
compared to the prior year, or again approximately a 14% decrease.
These cost initiatives included a number of components, including reductions in staff earlier this
year, executive pay reductions, reduced travel, among other items. We continue to prudently focus
on costs while at the same time look for growth opportunities. We have proven historically that we
can be successful in leveraging our infrastructure as we grow the business, and are committed to do
so again as we bring on new client opportunities.
In evaluating our results for the fourth quarter and year end, I just want to remind everybody that
the 2008 numbers that are our comparison quarter for the prior year include the revenue from the
U.S. Government contract, which had ramped down during the first quarter of 2009 and officially
ended early in the second quarter of 2009. As reported in our press release, our consolidated
revenue for PFSweb in the fourth quarter ended December 31 was 95.6 million compared to 112.8
million reported in the fourth quarter 2008. Gross profit for the fourth quarter of 2009 was 10.1
million or 11.7% of net revenue, excluding pass-through revenue, as compared to 13.4 million or
13.4% of net revenue including pass-through revenue in the fourth quarter 2008.
As we have discussed previously, we utilize adjusted EBITDA as a key metric in evaluating our
operational performance. In the fourth quarter, our consolidated adjusted EBITDA was 1.1 million as
compared to 2.4 million in the prior year period. For the fourth quarter, net loss was 947,000 or
approximately $0.10 per basic and diluted share. This compares to a total reported net loss of 16.2
million, or $1.63 per basic and diluted share for the same period last year. I must remind you
though that the net loss for 2008s fourth quarter and year end results for 2008 included a
non-cash charge of 16.3 million attributable to the impairment of identifiable intangibles and
goodwill of eCOST recorded late 2008.
Now turning to the results for the full year. Our consolidated revenue for the calendar year 2009
was 352 million compared to 452 million in 2008. Gross profit for 2009 was slightly over 39 million
or 12% of net revenues, excluding pass-through revenues, compared to 52.8 or 12.7% of net revenues,
excluding pass-through revenues again, in 2008. Adjusted EBITDA for calendar year 2009 was 4.2
million as compared to 10.1 million in the prior year. Net loss for the year was 4.6 million or
$0.46 per basic and diluted share compared to a net loss of 15.7 million or $1.58 per share for the
prior year.
As Mark indicated earlier, we think its important to note that for the year 2009, PFSweb generated
positive consolidated free cash flow. If you recall at the beginning of calendar year 2009, our
target was to generate breakeven to positive free cash flow for the year as our objective. We met
that goal by generating $3.7 million of free cash flow for the year, which is consistent with the
performance for the prior year. To calculate free cash flow, our calculation takes our net cash
provided by operating activities and then subtracts out capital expenditures.
We continue to maintain a solid financial position with total cash and restricted cash as of
December 2009 of approximately $17 million. Our debt balance improved this year as well, declining
from over $27 million as of December 2008 to approximately 22.5 million as of December
2009. As discussed in our press release, we are pleased to have recently completed the renewals of
our financing facilities with IBM Global Finance, Comerica and Fortis, and we believe we have the
financing in place to support our current business needs.
Turning now to the performance of select business segments for the year ended December 31, 2009.
First, Service Fee revenue decreased to about $59 million from 85 million in the prior year. This
decrease is primarily attributable to the non-renewal of the U.S. government agency client
relationship but was partially offset by increased service fees generated from new service fee
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offset the impact of the lower revenue and gross margin, this business segments bottom line result
is down on a year-over-year basis.
However, we communicated in August 2009 that we believed our June 2009 quarterly results would
reflect our trough quarter performance for this segment, as we had not yet seen the benefit of new
client wins but had the negative impact of the lost U.S. government contract. As new clients have
come on board during late 2009, and we also experienced the seasonal uptick from the holiday season
activity, our results for this segment improved strongly in the September and December 2009
quarters.
For our Supplies Distributors business segment, revenue was 183 million in 2009 as compared to 231
million for the prior year. The decrease here is primarily due to the weaker global economic
conditions. However, even with this decrease, the business continued to contribute strong bottom
line results for us during the year.
And as for eCOST.com, revenue in 2009 was about 85 million compared to $100 million last year.
However, as Mark talked about, despite the lower revenue our non-GAAP net loss for eCOST improved
to a loss of 1.1 million as compared to $2.1 million loss in the prior year, primarily as a result
of improved gross margin performance as well as further cost-cutting measures taken in the
business.
Now Id like to turn the call back over to Mark for some closing remarks.
Mark C. Layton, Chairman, Senior Partner and Chief Executive Officer
Thank you, Tom. All right, so just to recap as you could see weve got a lot of exciting things
going on thatll help us with growth as we look to the future. We are definitely entering a new era
of excitement and potential as we have described. Over the next couple of months well look to
update you on our progress with several pending new agreements for the Services business and the
upcoming public launch of the eStore with Proctor & Gamble.
Im excited not only by our ability to persevere through challenging times, but also by our ability
to evolve and seek out new opportunities of a world of commerce changes rapidly around us. We look
forward to prosperous times ahead.
Operator, that concludes our prepared comments today. Well now be available for a few questions.
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Operator: Thank you. [Operator Instructions] Your first question comes from Alex Silverman of
Special Situations.
<Q>: Good morning.
<A Mark Layton>: Hi, Alex.
<Q>: Nice looking quarter.
<A Mark Layton>: Thank you.
<Q>: It appears that the unnamed childrens clothing company appears to be Carters, I dont
know if you can confirm that or not, but it appears that there are multiple brands with a single
checkout, is that right?
<A Michael Willoughby>: Well, I think your observations of the Carters website are right.
<Q>: Okay. That seems like a unique structure in that multiple brands, one shopping cart.
Given that you have got other multi-brand customers, can we expect to see more of that in the
future?
<A Mark Layton>: Well, I think every client situations different. In this scenario here,
they were looking for a common shopping cart solution. But we have other clients with multiple
brands who are looking for more apt to be common technology architecture and maybe a common
shopping cart or maybe a separate shopping cart, or a combination thereof.
One of the larger deals were working on right now actually has multiple brands in one grouping but
will also have, off that same common technology architecture, specific brand stores with their own
unique checkout capabilities to them. And it just has to do with the way each brands marketed and
where the customer segments are, and how they want the look and feel to be, but it speaks to the
flexibility of the solutions that were providing, and the brands love it because they get to
control how the look and feel ends up. And that flexibility is really a key competitive
differentiator for us.
<Q>: Well, it looks great.
<A Mark Layton>: Thank you.
<Q>: Thanks, guys.
Operator: Your next question comes from Marco Rodriguez of Stonegate Securities.
<Q Marco Rodriguez>: Good morning, guys. Thanks for taking the questions here.
<A Mark Layton>: You bet. Good morning, Marco.
<Q Marco Rodriguez>: Good morning. I was wondering you guys sounded pretty confident
obviously in your competitive position currently given your new end-to-end solution. I was
wondering if maybe you could provide a little bit more color in regard to the competitive landscape
and what you see or what you sense that your competitor reactions will be to your new solution.
<A Mark Layton>: Well, in the direct-to-consumer space, there really are only two global
providers of solutions available out there, and thats ourselves and GSI Commerce. And I think that
as Mike described in his portion of the prepared comments here, that we have found ourselves in a
position with our technology solution in the fashion and in the consumer products areas out there
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that weve got a pretty significant significantly more attractive and flexible solution to offer
to those brands than what our competitor has to offer in that area. How they react, youd have to
ask them that question themselves.
I think that much like GSI carved their niche in sporting goods early on, were entering an area
here where its our time to carve our niche frankly in markets that have the potential to be much
larger than the sporting goods segment is today. Now itll take years for that to develop, but if
you fast-forward a decade from now and compare the two decades against each other, I think you can
see some exciting comparisons. And its really why we believe were kind of entering a new era here
where the solutions that we have crafted and now matured in the last 18 months have put us in a
unique position to be able to capitalize on some market areas that we think are relatively immature
but have the potential to be very large in the years to come.
<Q Marco Rodriguez>: Thats helpful. So you dont see any irrationality from them in terms
of going after those particular segments where youre pretty well-established now?
<A Michael Willoughby>: When you say irrationality, you mean lowering the price
unreasonably or doing some things to try to compensate for...
<Q Marco Rodriguez>: Exactly. Exactly, just coming in with some obscene pricing that
theyre probably losing money on or anything of that nature.
<A Michael Willoughby>: So I think theres a couple things that keep that from happening.
One is that the primary competitor that Mark mentioned has a different niche that theyve been
successful in. I dont know that theyre motivated to go reduce their expected margins just to try
to cannibalize sales from our niches, so we dont necessarily see that happening. We certainly are
competitive with them in deals. But I think its a healthy competition where were motivated to try
to increase the quality of the solution rather than to unreasonably drop pricing.
If you look at other competitors which would be sort of small, regional providers, folks that dont
have the global infrastructure that we have, dont have the best-in-class capabilities, then were
competing on quality and capability, and in some cases, we may go in with a price that is quite a
bit above one of these other small providers, but if were in the right deal I think that the
decisions going to be made on quality and capability and scalability, particularly if the brand
has global aspirations, because frankly theyre just going to run out of steam with some of these
smaller providers. So I like to say that if were in a deal where one of our smaller regional
competitors is able to win the deal, one of us a wrong deal, that would probably be us in that
situation. Otherwise were going to outcompete the smaller guys just with the quality and
capabilities we have.
<Q Marco Rodriguez>: Okay, great. Thats helpful. And then I was wondering if you could
talk a little bit in regard to your gross margins in the quarter for Supplies Distributors. It
seemed to be a little bit on the higher end, obviously similar to last quarter, but a little bit
higher than what youve normally done on a historical basis. Can you kind of shed a little more
color there in regard to that?
<A Thomas Madden>: Yes. This is Tom. The gross margins for that business are generally in
the 6 to 7% range. This quarters performance was toward the high end of that range. Some of it is
just some pricing changes that have occurred earlier this year that we still had some benefit from
during this quarter. Nothing significant there, so our ongoing level of expectation there is
probably closer to that 6 to 6.5% range.
<Q Marco Rodriguez>: And just to be clear as well, are there any more revenues in the
quarter coming from that large U.S. government entity that terminated a little while ago?
<A Thomas Madden>: No. That contract relationship stopped in early April of 2009.
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<Q Marco Rodriguez>: Okay. Great. And then I was wondering if you could talk a little bit
about the operating expenses. In your prepared remarks, Tom, you talked about the right-sizing that
you guys did very quickly, which obviously helped improve your overall financial performance, but
you mentioned a couple items that sounded kind of like they were one-time events, like reduction in
executive pay and reduction in travel. Can you help kind of quantify or provide some sort of
percentages that of the monies that you reduced on your SG&A lines or the OpEx overall, what was
kind of one-time items that might return once the economy improves?
<A Mark Layton>: Ill take that. I mean, the biggest portion of those things are going to
be variable expenses that were directly related to the services that were discontinued as a result
of the non-renewal of the clients that weve described out there. So thats the lions share of the
adjustments under there. And it speaks to the way weve designed our business model, Marco, is that
we specifically allocate assets and people to our client activity and in order to be certain
that we keep our business cost structure variable so that when things like this come up obviously
youre distraught with the loss of the gross margin dollars that you earn in these things, but we
should be in a position to shed most of the operating costs related to that. Some of them
unfortunately are in people, others are in specific infrastructure activity that we have, be it
warehouse space or technology components or so on.
So thats the lions share of the reduction that was there. There were also some other unfortunate
downsizing activities that were done. Tom mentioned the executive comp piece on an overall basis
that those are not material numbers in the big portion of the thing, but certainly something that
we felt was appropriate to undertake given the downtick in our financial performance. We have tried
to tie our compensation programs here to the companys financial performance, so as we grow and
financial performance improves, and a portion of that improvement would obviously be dedicated to
salary increases and things not only at the executive level but obviously overall.
So it was certainly a year where the theme was frugality here. And as business picks up well spend
appropriately to be certain that were capturing on opportunities, but I would not categorize
you would not see $4 million of the $7 million come back into the SG&A this year, because they were
one-time reductions last year. Thats just not the case. The majority of those costs would come
back directly related to growth in Service Fee revenue from new clients.
<Q Marco Rodriguez>: Perfect. Thats very helpful. And then one last quick question.
Looking at the eCOST business, the new customer adds that you had in the quarter were a pretty
substantial increase sequentially and year over year. Is that a function of the new marketing
initiatives you were talking about in your prepared remarks? Or was there something else there?
<A Mark Layton>: It is a function of a couple of new marketing programs. Specifically I
think the largest one is a relationship with eBay that has grown pretty substantially since the
middle part of 2009. Youll see eCOST.com on the eBay Deal of the Day. I believe its two days a
week throughout 2010. That is driving a very rich vein of new customer activity for us.
However, I must hasten to add that they have substantially different financial characteristics than
new customers that weve gotten from other sources. So while the numbers on a gross basis of new
customers are quite attractive, they tend to be more thrifty-oriented customers looking for smaller
deal values. And as a result our average order size with that group is smaller. So overall theyre
not that growth is not as financially attractive as it would have been if wed have been able to
attract a group of customers that were more like our average previously. So a bit of a kind of
tempered excitement in that, but certainly its an opportunity for us to kind of market to them and
try to grow those customers in the future. Well know more about that in another six or eight
months.
<Q Marco Rodriguez>: Okay. Perfect. Thanks a lot, guys.
<A Mark Layton>: Thank you.
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<A Michael Willoughby>: Thank you.
Operator: Your next question comes from Chris Cerniglia of Stifel Nicolaus.
<Q Christopher Cerniglia>: Hey, guys.
<A Mike Layton>: Good morning, Chris.
<Q Christopher Cerniglia>: Seems like good morning. Seems like all the pieces of the
puzzle are coming together pretty nicely. What are you, management or KCSA doing to get your name
in front of, whether it be a research firm? GSI Commerce has got a $1.6 billion market cap and here
we sit with 29 million. What are you doing to get your name out in front of new prospective buyers
as well as communicate the type of business that you guys are doing?
<A Mark Layton>: Without getting into too many details, because its not all out there
yet, but obviously the S-3 shelfs that we filed previously is something that would give some
indication that our IR efforts are going to be heightened this year. We will be out in the market
more regularly this year with the story that we feel this whole new wave and new era thing, I think
its something that were quite excited about. So with KCSA and some other bankers, we will be more
active in the market and I would expect for us to be able to leave 2010 with improved research
coverage from basically none in 2009 and previous.
<Q Christopher Cerniglia>: So, I guess you cant talk about it, but youre planning on
raising capital some time in 09 although you may not need it.
<A Mark Layton>: Yes, 2010, but...
<Q Christopher Cerniglia>: 2010, sorry, guys.
<A Mark Layton>: Its certainly something that well look at as things go from there. You
know it goes hand in hand with trying to get the market cap improvement and the gap that you
mentioned there closed. So theres no definitive plan at this point in time but were trying to
leave all our options open. And the one thing I will tell you and reiterate again is you will see a
heightened IR effort from us this year.
<Q Christopher Cerniglia>: Great, thank you, good luck.
<A Mark Layton>: Thank you.
<A Michael Willoughby>: Thanks, Chris.
Operator: Your next question comes from Aaron Travis of Global Hunter Securities .
<Q>: Hi, fellows. I wanted to ask you about the revenue mix for 2010. Can you give us some
color on where you see it between the three business segments?
<A Thomas Madden>: Well, we havent really given any guidance specifically on targets for
2010. I guess the general theme would be that we our Service Fee business we think that revenue
should -it will be targeted to grow this year with the new client activity that we brought on and
obviously our 2009 comparison, especially in the first quarter is still going to be a little bit
tough because we still had some of the revenue from our U.S. Government client in that quarter, but
as we kind of anniversary that event and look forward to the future, were hopeful that these new
client activities would allow us to report improved revenue growth on a year-over-year basis.
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Our Supplies Distributors business has really performed at about the same level over the last
several quarters, somewhere in that $45 million a quarter range. While its down on a
year-over-year basis, its stayed relatively stable over this period, the last couple of quarters.
I dont expect any significant changes in that business as I look out into 2010. And then on the
eCOST side, I guess were hopeful that as the economy improves, that well see further growth there
from that revenue base.
<Q>: Okay, great. Thanks. One other quick question on the Service Fee business customer
concentration, do you have those numbers for us?
<A Thomas Madden>: Yes. From customer concentration, during 2009, there would have been
one client that represented about 15% of our revenue and then several others in that 8 to 10%
range, but I think theres just one thats over the 10% threshold.
<Q>: Great. Thank you.
Operator: [Operator Instructions] And at this time there are no further questions.
Mark C. Layton, Chairman, Senior Partner and Chief Executive Officer
Great. Thank you for your time this morning. Have a great day.
Operator: Thank you. This does conclude todays conference call. You may now disconnect.
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