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FORM 8-K
CURRENT REPORT
PURSUANT TO SECTION 13 OR 15(D) OF
THE SECURITIES EXCHANGE ACT OF 1934
DATE OF REPORT (DATE OF EARLIEST EVENT REPORTED): April 2, 2009
PFSweb, Inc.
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INFORMATION TO BE INCLUDED IN THE REPORT
ITEM 8.01. Other Events
On April 2, 2009, PFSweb, Inc. hosted a conference call announcing its financial results
for the quarter ended December 31, 2008. Attached to this current report on Form 8-K is a copy of
the related conference call transcript dated April 2, 2009. The information in this Report on Form
8-K, and the exhibit hereto, shall not be deemed filed for purposes of Section 18 of the Exchange
Act or otherwise subject to the liability of that Section.
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SIGNATURE
Pursuant to the requirements of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, the registrant has duly caused
this report to be signed on its behalf by the undersigned hereunto duly authorized.
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MANAGEMENT DISCUSSION SECTION
Operator: Good morning. My name is Nicole and I will be your conference operator today. At this
time I would like to welcome everyone to the PFSweb Fourth Quarter 2008 Earnings Conference Call.
[Operator Instructions] Thank you. I would now like to turn the call over to Mr. Todd Fromer to
begin. Please go ahead, sir.
Todd Fromer, KCSA Strategic Communications
Thank you, Nicole. Before turning the call over to management I would like to make the following
remarks concerning forward-looking statements. All statements in this conference call other than
historical facts are forward-looking statements. The words anticipate, believe, estimate, expect,
intend, will, guidance, confident and other similar expressions typically are used to identify
forward-looking statements.
These forward-looking statements are not guarantees of future performance and involve and are
subject to risks, uncertainties and other factors that may effect PFSwebs business, financial
condition and operating results, which include but are not limited to the risk factors and other
qualifications contained in PFSwebs annual report on Form 10-K, quarterly reports on Form 10-Q and
other reports filed by PFSweb with the SEC to which your attention is directed.
Therefore actual outcomes and results may differ materially from what is expressed or implied by
these forward-looking statements. PFSweb expressly disclaims any intent or obligation to update
these forward-looking statements. During this call well also present certain non-GAAP financial
measures, EBITDA, adjusted EBITDA, non-GAAP net income, free cash flow, merchandise sales, and
certain ratios that use these measures.
In our press release with financial tables issued earlier this week, which is located on our
website at pfsweb.com, youll find our definitions of these non-GAAP financial measures, a
reconciliation of these non-GAAP financial measures with the closest GAAP measures, and a
discussion about why we think these non-GAAP measures are relevant. These financial measures are
included for the benefit of the investors and should be considered in addition to and not instead
of GAAP measures.
At this time it is now my pleasure to turn the floor over to Mr. Mark Layton, Chairman and CEO of
PFSweb. Mark, the floor is yours.
Mark C. Layton, Chairman, Senior Partner Chief Executive Officer
Good morning, Todd. I appreciate the introduction and good morning, everyone. This is Mark Layton,
Chief Executive of PFSweb, and I thank you for your time this morning.
Id like to welcome you to our 2008 Fourth Quarter and Year End Conference Call. With me today as
always is Tom Madden, our Chief Financial Officer and Mike Willoughby, President of our Services
business.
This morning we will provide you with an overview of our financial results for the fourth quarter
and add some color on the events that shaped the quarter and the year ended December 31, 2008, as
well an update on certain items applicable to the calendar year of 2009. Following the prepared
remarks, Tom, Mike and I will be available for questions. I do want to apologize for the one day
delay in the scheduling of this call as we just had the other scheduling conflicts that arose that
just required us to modify the call scheduling.
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On Tuesday of this week, we released our 2008 full-year and fourth-quarter results. We were pleased
to be able to report that these results fall into the adjusted EBITDA and non-GAAP net income range
we targeted for 2009 at the beginning of the year. In light of the challenging economic actually
thats the targets for 2008, my apologies. In light of the challenging economic environment that
weve all been experiencing, we are particularly delighted to have been able to produce these solid
results. My hat goes off to my entire leadership team here in the U.S., Canada, Europe and Manila,
who I believe have done a fantastic job reacting to the challenges of this difficult business
environment and adapting our operations to ensure we achieved a desirable outcome.
For 2008, as well discuss this morning, we reported $10.1 million of adjusted EBITDA and $1.9
million of non-GAAP net income, both of which are within our previously provided guidance for 2008.
2008 represents our second consecutive year of positive non-GAAP net income and positive free cash
flow. And our December 2008 quarter marks our seventh consecutive quarter of positive non-GAAP net
income performance.
These consolidated financial results speak directly to the variable cost structure of our business.
This structure offers us the flexibility to quickly make adjustments to our cost structure in an
effort to offset challenges in the economy or changes in our clients needs that might arise. As we
have seen over the past year, this variable ability allows us to move quickly and is a significant
advantage for us and our clients as we believe it gives our clients confidence in PFSweb as a
partner because of our ability to adapt, change and react quickly to a rapidly evolving business
environment, particularly the one weve experienced together over the last six months.
With these full year results as a backdrop, let me now provide you a few key operating highlights
before I give the mic over to Tom and to Michael to fill in the details. First, Id like to point
out our Services business in 2008 saw a 15% increase in service fee revenue. As Mike will discuss
further, our development of a complete end-to-end service product offering, which we launched in
early 2008, has driven increased activity from the online retail segment of our client base and has
led us to where we currently sit with our largest, and what I believe to be, most exciting new
business pipeline that weve had in many years. Mike will provide you some more details on that in
a few minutes.
Second highlight Id like to point out is that our eCOST.com retail business unit reported
improving and encouraging trends during Q4 and throughout the year. Adjusted EBITDA performance
improved year-over-year, and while revenue was down slightly due to the challenging economics in
our business-to-business segment, our Business to Consumer segment within eCOST showed very solid
growth throughout 2008 and particularly in calendar quarter four.
Third highlight. Given the challenging economic climate overall and the reduction in service fee
revenue we will experience from the non-renewal of a large government contract as weve disclosed
previously, we took very strong and proactive steps during the first quarter of 2009 to right-size
our organization to where we believe its better aligned with the current business climate. We
believe that collectively these actions, as Tom will discuss further, will allow us to continue to
target positive adjusted EBITDA in 2009 and positive free cash flow.
Were pleased to have completed the renewal of all of our major credit facilities as well. These
renewals have been done with terms that are materially similar to those under which we operated in
previously.
In summary, I believe our business remains vibrant, viable and healthy. And again I want to
acknowledge the outstanding work our leadership team from finance to operations to account
management to new business development and beyond has done over the past six months. Its a
challenging environment, but our business has reacted well. Its a great place to work, and Im
proud of our team.
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With these items as a backdrop, Ill now turn the call over to Mike Willoughby who will give you
some additional details about the Services business specifically. Michael?
Michael Willoughby, Senior Partner President, PFSweb Services Division
Thank you, Mark. And good morning, everyone. Before beginning my comments, Id like to remind you
that when I refer to our Services business segment in my comments, Im including both our Supplies
Distributors and our PFS Service Fee business, since both of these business operate the same way
although they have a different financial model underneath.
As of December 31, 2008 our Services business had about 40 clients. And this includes a number of
clients that were ramping up new programs throughout the year. These client programs include Urban
Brands Ashley Stewart, which was kicked off in May of 2008. Luxottica Group Sunglass Hut, which was
implemented in the December quarter, and Sephora which is a division of Moet Hennessy Louis Vuitton
or LVMH, which launched in the December quarter. And there are certain other new clients that we
signed during the year that will begin ramping up in calendar year 2009.
We also started the implementation of several programs during the year for companies that we are
unable yet to disclose their names, and this includes a previously announced
master agreement with a luxury goods retailer where well provide custom eCommerce solutions for
three separate, but widely recognized luxury or fashion apparel brands. And were providing a
comprehensive end to end eCommerce solution for each one of these brands. The agreement with this
company leverages our warehouse, order fulfillment, and logistic services to support each brand
uniquely. Were very excited that the master agreement has the potential to expand through the
addition of other brands that are owned by this company.
Were also really encouraged by the success of this new relationship, and we believe it validates
our approach to target luxury and prestige brand holding companies, or portfolio companies, where a
single contract relationship may lead to multiple, valuable brand engagements. We believe our end
to end solution is uniquely positioned in our industry to meet the needs of these brand holding
companies where we can provide a single solid infrastructure and provide tremendous leverage to our
client and economies of scale, while still providing a custom branded experience for each brand.
And I think this is really critical to the luxury and prestige brands that were targeting.
As we mentioned throughout 2008 and as Mark just touched on in his introductory comments, we
believe our end to end commerce solution which we launched early in 2008 is a significant
competitive differentiator, and we believe that differentiator will continue to help us compete for
new business contracts in the future. This now proven and mature offering allows retailers and
branded consumer good manufacturers a complete outsourcing solution that we can customize to meet
their individual unique needs. It allows these companies to do this without losing the site or
brand control thats been associated with earlier proprietary solutions offered by some of our
competitors.
Our first end-to-end program utilizing the solution went live in August with the re-launch of the
Roots.com site, for both the U.S. and the Canadian markets, and since then weve also launched the
first site under the master agreement with the leading luxury goods retailer I just referred to. We
expect to launch at least two additional brands under this master agreement during the remainder of
2009. We believe this expanded e-commerce capability has made us even more competitive and is
playing an important role in helping us win large client agreements, particularly among prestige
and luxury brands.
Concerning the new client agreements not previously disclosed, as Mark mentioned, weve entered
into one new client relationship, and we are in the final contracting stage with three others.
Well formally announce specific new agreements as permitted by our clients. However, our clients
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often hesitant to disclose their decision to outsource major portions of their operations, and
were sensitive to their wishes as we back our commitment to be the brand behind the worlds
leading brands.
Were very pleased with these new client relationships and the continued confidence displayed by
major brands in the strength of our solutions and in the strength of our company. We believe this
confidence is further signaled by the significant increase in the quality and value of our new
business pipeline, which has increased from prior levels to reach about $50 million in annual
contract value total.
This figure includes the three deals that are in the final contracting stage. As Mark indicated in
his earlier comments, we believe this is the most exciting new business pipeline that weve had in
many years. And I join Mark in congratulating our entire team for their hard work during a
difficult economic time to create significant new opportunities to grow our already impressive
client portfolio. For us, winning new business is a big team effort, and Im incredibly proud of
our winning PFS team.
To summarize, we believe the recent new clients we have signed as well as our pipeline of pending
proposals really demonstrates a strong demand for our global solution in the U.S. and European
markets. Our solution meets the needs of large international corporations to reach consumers in new
markets via the Internet without losing control of their brands and without and minimizes the risk
of entering new markets. By utilizing our global e-commerce solution, market dominating brands are
now empowered to quickly and aggressively tap into growth opportunities and maximize their existing
online channel much more effectively and efficiently than was previously possible with an in house
solution or a competing out source solution.
So were very excited about where were at, and Ill turn over the mic to Mark for some highlights
for our eCOST.com subsidiary. Mark?
Mark C. Layton, Chairman, Senior Partner Chief Executive Officer
Thanks, Mike. Thank you for your comments. Now some specifics on our eCOST segment. As I mentioned
in my opening, we are pleased with the progress were making particularly as we reflect on the
growth were achieving in the Business to Consumer segment of eCOST at a time when many web
commerce retail sites are reporting flat or even down results.
eCOST.com continues to drive extreme site improvements. Outside the box, our hitting approaches and
most importantly our merchants working with our manufacturer and distributor partners are
continuing to provide us with a constant and very attractive flow of aggressively priced products
that we can offer to the eCOST.com customers. Its exciting times at eCOST as we have some great
tools that have been deployed by our IT team, and they are providing us a new horizon for growth.
As an example, in December of 2008, eCOST launched new technology enhancements to our proprietary
and patented bargain countdown technology. These enhancements allowed our marketing team to then
launch its latest marketing bonanza called the Outrageous Offer. The Outrageous Offer program,
which is unveiled randomly multiple times each week with varying product selections, showcases
outrageously low prices on a very limited selection of products and units allowing eCOST.com
customers to share in the great flow of product deals that our merchants have sourced. As an
example, in December 2008, eCOST showcased the Nintendo Wii for as low as $79. We showcased an Acer
notebook for $89. Due to pricing sensitivity, these offers are generally only available to our
Platinum Club members and are available only in very limited quantities.
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Just a few key highlights I believe that are important indicators for eCOST as we look at the
details of this business, first, adjusted gross margins increased 90 basis points from about 9% in
Q4 of 2007 to about 9.9% in Q4 of 2008. This is a result of improvements in our product mix towards
higher-margin products, improvements in our automated pricing logic, which has driven higher
product margins, continuing optimization of our freight programs and strong growth in our Business
to Consumer segment where the overall financial characteristics of the business transaction are
better than that in our Business to Business segment.
Secondly, as we look at the eCOST business, unique visitor traffic, this is a statistic similar to
shopper count in a traditional retail store, grew during the fourth quarter of 2008 about 45%.
Getting more shoppers to our site is one critical factor to driving higher revenue volumes. The
introduction of the new technological capabilities that allowed us to launch the new Outrageous
Deal marketing program in December 2008, has met with huge acceptance. These deals have also driven
huge new membership growth in our Platinum Club program where December 2008 memberships were up
about 800% over the December 2007 quarter. This success has continued into 2009 as well as our Q1
2009 memberships are up about 650% versus the same quarter in 2008. Whats important is that our
historical data shows us that club members buy three times more frequently than non-club members.
And as such were excited about the customer-like value potential to this large group of new club
members that weve added over the last few months.
So margins are up, visitor traffics up. Third, new customer activity is up as well. New customers
showed strong growth in 2008 and particularly in the fourth quarter. We added about 48,000 new
customers in the fourth quarter of 2008 compared to 32,000 new customers during the same period a
year ago. And thats an increase of about 50%. We believe the Outrageous Offer marketing program
has also been critical to our success and new customer traffic. So margins are up, visitor
traffics up, new customers are up.
And whats probably most exciting financially is that even with these outstanding characteristics
Ive just covered, we spent less money to acquire a new customer in Q4 2008 than we did in Q4 2007.
The estimated cost to acquire a new customer for the fourth quarter of 2008 was $4.74, excluding
our catalog costs, compared to $5.33, also excluding catalog costs, for the fourth quarter of 2007.
Thats $4.74 this year versus $5.33 a year ago.
We believe that we are perfecting a suite of viral marketing methods that bring customers to our
site by word of mouth or personal recommendation. The buzz created by our outrageous offers we
believe has certainly drawn new customers to our site. And it does so in a manner thats very cost
effective when compared to other marketing programs like affiliate advertising or shopping
comparison engines or search engine marketing.
Our decision in late 2007 to focus our management and marketing efforts more on the Consumer
segment versus the Business to Business segment is showing strong success as well, as supported by
the data Ive already discussed. Our Business to Consumer segment
represented more than 70% of eCOSTs total revenue in the fourth quarter of 2008 and was up about
13% versus the same quarter in 2007. Weve certainly not abandoned the B2B segment, but with our
strong focus on continuing to improve the financial characteristics of the eCOST business, it
behooves us to continue to focus most of our resources on the B2C segment given its substantially
stronger financial characteristics. B2B revenue was down about $10 million in 2008 versus 2007 as
we reduced focused sales resources, and adapted our margin objectives to help ensure that B2B order
characteristics meet our overall financial objectives. During Q1 2009, we did experience some
firming up of the B2B segment as revenues begun to stabilize at a higher gross margin point than
weve experienced previously.
Over the past three years eCOST has gone through some tremendous transformation. We remain excited
about its potential, and while the transformation path has been longer and more complex than I ever
imagined, I remain confident of my target that this business segment will ultimately be a
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strong contributor to growth and will provide solid financial contribution to our company overall
in the future.
Further its important to note the additional intangible value that our eCOST segment has for our
Services business in terms of its pioneering and innovation. eCOST, in addition to just being its
own business, serves as a sort of development laboratory for new capabilities via new check out
methods, customer acquisition models, customer life cycle analysis or virtual warehouse
partnerships among many other developments. As we find successful tools that work for eCOST they
then can become fully deployed and offered in our Services business as part of our services,
expanded services offering.
In summary, eCOST continues to evolve in what I believe to be a very positive direction. When you
peel back the layers of our Q4 results as Ive laid out for you here, it shows significant and
positive development and progress in many areas. Our eCOST management team in LA continues to
provide outstanding leadership and innovative thought leadership that challenges our organization
overall to be a better, faster and more responsive company. Their spirit and winning attitude is a
great asset to our organization overall, and Im excited about the results that we have and our
future in that piece of our business.
Now for some specifics on the financial results for the year and the quarter, let me turn the call
over to Mr. Madden, Tom.
Thomas J. Madden, Senior Partner Chief Financial Officer and Chief Accounting Officer
Thank you, Mark. Let me first start by providing a brief overview of our consolidated operating
results for the quarter ended December 31, 2008. Then I will provide some select operating
highlights of our individual business segments as well as an update on our recent credit renewals.
As reported in our press release, our consolidated revenue for PFSweb in the quarter ended December
31, 2008 was $112.8 million compared to $122 million reported in the fourth quarter of 2007. Gross
profit for the fourth quarter of 2008 was $13.4 million or 13.4% of net revenue excluding pass thru
revenues as compared to $13 million or 11.8 million of net revenue excluding pass thru revenues in
the fourth quarter of the prior year.
The increase in consolidated gross margin percentage is primarily attributable to a decrease in
product revenue, which represents our lower gross margin business and a slight increase in service
fee revenues which is our higher gross margin business.
As we had discussed previously, we utilize adjusted EBITDA as a key metric in evaluating our
operational performance. In the fourth quarter, our consolidated adjusted EBITDA was $2.4 million
versus $3.5 million in the prior year period. For the fourth quarter, net loss was $16.2 million or
$1.63 per basic and diluted share compared to net income of approximately $661,000 or $0.07 per
basic and $0.06 per diluted share for the same period last year.
Our net loss for the 2008 fourth quarter includes a non-cash charge of $16.3 million attributable
to the impairment of identifiable intangibles and goodwill at eCOST.com. Similar to many other
companies reporting their year-end results, this impairment charge was taken in accordance with
Statement of Financial Accounting Standards 142 and relates primarily to the adverse equity market
conditions and the global economic slowdowns that caused a decrease in PFSweb stock price as of
December 31, 2008. While this impairment charge reduced reported results for 2008, it did not
affect operations, debt covenants or the companys liquidity position as of year-end. Excluding
this charge, we would have reported net income of approximately $100,000 for the December 2008
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Another key metric we use in evaluating our financial performance is non-GAAP net income. To
calculate this, we exclude from net income calculated in accordance with GAAP, the impact of
stock-based compensation, goodwill and intangible asset impairments and amortization of
identifiable intangible assets.
For the fourth quarter, non-GAAP net income was approximately $0.4 million or $0.04 per basic and
diluted shares as compared to non-GAAP net income of about $1.1 million or $0.11 per basic and
$0.10 per diluted share for the same period last year. As Mark indicated earlier, this is our
seventh consecutive quarter of positive non-GAAP income results.
Now turning to the results for the full year. Our consolidated revenue for calendar year 2008 was
$451.8 million compared to $446.8 million in 2007. Revenues in 2008 were negatively impacted in our
Supplies Distributors business due to a decline in demand, especially during the fourth quarter,
which is primarily attributable to the global economic pressures during the period as well as a
reduction in eCOST revenues due to the reduced focus on the B2B segment. However, these decreases
were more than offset by further growth in our Service Fee business activity as Mike discussed
earlier.
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profit for 2008 was $52.8 million or 12.7% of net revenues,
excluding pass thru revenues,
compared to $46.8 million or 11.3% of net revenues, excluding pass thru revenues, in 2007. Adjusted
EBITDA for calendar year 2008 was $10.1 million as compared to $10.9 million prior year.
Net loss for the calendar year 2008 was $15.7 million or $1.58 per basic and diluted share compared
to a net loss of $1.4 million or $0.14 per share for the prior year. Excluding the impairment
charge, our net income results were a positive $0.6 million for calendar year 2008.
Non-GAAP net income, as discussed earlier, for the entire 2008 calendar year was a positive $1.9
million. This was right in the middle of our one million to $3 million guidance provided in early
2008. This equates to about $0.20 per basic and diluted per share as compared to non-GAAP net
income of $0.2 million or $0.02 per basic and diluted share for the prior year. So on a bottom line
basis, excluding the impairment charge, our bottom line results for calendar year 2008 were nearly
$2 million better than the prior year.
We also think its important to note that for the calendar year 2008, PFSweb generated positive
free cash flow on a consolidated basis. For the year the company generated $3.7 million of free
cash flow compared to free cash flow of $1.5 million for the same period last year. To calculate
free cash flow we utilize the net cash provided by operating activities less capital expenditures.
Turning now to the performance of select business segments for the year ended December 31, 2008.
First on a service fee basis, service fee revenue basis, this increased 15% to $85.4 million from
$74.5 million in the prior year. This growth is attributable to new contracts as well as
incremental project activity.
SG&A increased in 2008 versus the prior year primarily due to the increased personnel costs and the
prior year results benefiting from a favorable impact on exchange rates on certain intercompany
accounts. For our Supplies Distributors business segments, revenue was $230.7 million in 2008,
which is a slight decrease as compared to the $235.4 million for the prior year. Again, this
decrease is primarily due to the weaker global economic conditions.
Gross margins as well as net profit in this business were generally in line with prior year results
and expectations. As for eCOST.com revenue in 2008 was approximately $100 million compared to
approximately $104 million last year. As Mark indicated, our enhanced focus and success in the
Business to Consumer segment was partially offset by the revenue decline in the Business to
Business segment for eCOST. However, our bottom line results for eCOST improved as a result of the
higher margins in the B2C business as well as continued strong cost focus.
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Now let me share a quick update on our financing for the business units. Obviously, as a result of
the difficulties in the global credit markets over the last several months, we have had frequent
proactive contact with all of our lending partners. With that said, we are pleased to announce that
we just completed the renewals of our financing facilities with IBM Global Finance and Comerica
through March of 2010. Along with the extension of our agreements with Wachovia and Fortis, which
we announced earlier this year, on a collective basis over the past three months, we have renewed
credit facility totaling approximately $100 million in size. And we believe we have the financing
in place to support our current business needs.
Now Id like to turn the call back over to Mark for some closing remarks, Mark.
Mark C. Layton, Chairman, Senior Partner Chief Executive Officer
Okay. Thanks, Tom and Mike. So just a recap. Despite the tough economy during the year and
especially the fourth quarter, our results for December 2008 quarter and the calendar year we
believe were outstanding. We believe weve made necessary adjustments to our business to weather
the economic challenges that we currently see in front of us as well, and we believe we have strong
support from our banking partnerships going forward as Tom just described. And most excitingly as
Mike went through, we believe we have some great growth prospects in our new business pipeline and
our Services segment and in the eCOST.com consumer channel that we remain hopeful will lead us
forward through 2009 and beyond.
That concludes our prepared comments for today, and operator, well now be available for a few
questions.
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QUESTION AND ANSWER SECTION
Operator: [Operator Instructions] Your first question is from Alex Silverman of Special Situations
Funds.
<Q>: Morning.
<A Michael Willoughby>: Morning, Alex.
<Q>: Couple of questions here. First, can you give us a sense, what kinds of businesses are
in that $50 million of biddable business? Is there any change?
<A Michael Willoughby>: Hi, Alex, its Mike. So generally speaking, we see the new
business pipeline, a lot of the business in there is direct to consumer. I mentioned were really
aggressively targeting prestige and luxury brands and these brand holding companies.
<Q>: Okay.
<A Michael Willoughby>: And if you looked at the pipeline youd see a lot of
representation in prestige and luxury brands and even a couple of these holding companies where
there are multiple opportunities with a single win kind of a scenario. We do still see
opportunities in our B2B in high-tech side of the portfolio, so we still have opportunities in that
area. And we also have global opportunities represented there with European and global
opportunities. But I think the primary focus is on this direct to consumer push.
<Q>: Okay, great. And Tom, I think you said youre comfortable with the financing in place
for your needs for 2009. What does that assume in terms of CapEx?
<A Thomas Madden>: Currently were forecasting to be about three to $5 million of capital
expenditures this next year. That will include certain usually about $1.5 million to $2.5 or $3
million of just base capital expenditures to maintain the operations of the business, and then some
additional amount for the future client activity. Many of the client opportunities that were aware
of right now we believe will be able to be utilized in our existing infrastructure, so that should
minimize capital expenditures. Obviously you know if the right opportunity comes along, were
willing to look at utilizing new infrastructure to the extent required. But at this point in time,
many of our existing opportunities look they could utilize existing.
<Q>: Okay, great. I think you said eCOST B2B was down $10 million in 2008. Is that right?
<A Mark Layton>: Yes.
<Q>: How much of that was in the fourth quarter?
<A Mark Layton>: Itll be just a minute on that. You got another question, Alex, while we
look that up?
<Q>: Yes, I do. Thank you. So you gave us some sense of the first quarter in the sense that
B2Bs firming at eCOST. Can you help us at all with what the first quarter looked like for the
Services side of the business?
<A Mark Layton>: Not at this time, Alex. We dont have everything rolled together yet. So
obviously, the government contract we talked about discontinued on January 3.
<Q>: Yes.
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<A Mark Layton>: So and weve made significant adjustments for our cost infrastructure and
other things. So the 2009 outlook, as Tom described earlier in there, is focused on generating. Our
target is on generating positive free cash flow. But its going to be on a smaller revenue level
than what we had in 2008.
<Q>: How about your remaining Service customers though? Are they, whats the health of those
businesses?
<A Mark Layton>: Id say its a little soft right now. I would not say alarmingly soft,
but clearly the technology manufacturer segment in there is soft as we had indicated in our
Supplies Distributors business in the fourth quarter. Things are sluggish. I wouldnt call them
alarmingly sluggish, but its indicative of the slowdown that I think everyones experiencing.
<Q>: Okay. And then in terms of how much contribution could the Platinum Club business
make to the B2C side of eCOST?
<A Mark Layton>: Well, I think the most important part of it is what I covered in the call
comments, Alex. Being that the club members are much more aggressive in their buying patterns with
us. So we see in a year an average Platinum Club customer buys from us about four times versus a
new customer that is not a club member buying about 1.4 times in a year. So youve got, when you
look at the customer acquisition model, obviously, a shopper who has more total gross margin
activity is a lot more attractive to acquire than one who has less. So the club benefits seem to
provide a little bit of a golden handcuff, if you will, to our customer base who return to us and
buy more frequently. So thats the most important part of the attribute.
<Q>: On an order of magnitude, though, are Platinum Club members 10% of your customer base,
20, 35, whatever?
<A Mark Layton>: Its less than 10% right now of our annual customer volume, lets say. So
but obviously with the growth numbers that I was quoting where we were up 800% and about 650% in
growth in December and January, I think what youre going to see is the value of the Club itself
has become much more significant. So not only is it helping us to acquire new customers, but were
seeing our existing customer base move to becoming Club members when they were not previously. So
thats just actually a good measurement question there and Ill be sure to update on that as we go
forward, but its a little less than 10% right now.
<Q>: Okay, great. Thanks. Ill get back in the queue.
<A Thomas Madden>: Alex?
<Q>: Yes?
<A Thomas Madden>: Alex, this is Tom. To answer your earlier question on the B2B
component. The revenue for the fourth quarter was down approximately $6 million in the B2B segment.
<Q>: So the vast majority of the decline last year was in Q4.
<A Thomas Madden>: Yes.
<Q>: Got it, great. Thank you so much.
<A>: Thanks, Alex.
Operator: Your next question is from George Walsh of Gilford Securities.
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<A Michael Willoughby>: Hi, George.
<Q George Walsh>: On the eCOST side, how is the competitive factors working versus
retailer closeouts in the brick and mortar side in terms of pricing you have to do as thats
developed, and also versus acquiring product to sell?
<A Mark Layton>: I would say that in terms of just the retail side of it and whats going
on I dont think the competitive environment has changed significantly for us. Our primary
competitors in that business are not brick and mortar retail guys, so Ive had some questions about
well what did it mean when Circuit City went out. It really doesnt have any impact on the eCOST
business per say out there because were more competing with a group of online electronics and
technology and home house ware retailers out there, so that environment remains competitive. Its
always been competitive; the key comes down to the factors that I described earlier about access to
sourcing.
I think more than anything else our growth and success over the last year or so has really began to
open or maybe reopen doors that eCOST had back in its earlier heyday where our merchant team is
gaining success in being able to source a lot of name brand products. So for example, in the fourth
quarter last year we picked up access to Sony notebooks that we had not previously had. And so I
would say that our own success is opening those doors out there. I dont know that I can point,
George, to any other specific out there that say its wow, the economic environment or the
competitive environment has done this and changed the competitive landscaping. Its always been a
competitive marketplace and continues to be that.
<Q George Walsh>: Okay. And, Mike, I was wondering on the Services side as you target the
luxury brand market, how is that fairing in this environment? And whats driving the volumes there,
well, the interest on your clients that want to increase their initiatives there? Is it pricing
points that theyre looking for? Or is it just that theres, they just expect more volume to come
through the medium of online sales?
<A Michael Willoughby>: First, I think when you look at the industry overall, online sales
are still growing at a modest rate or at least flat across the industry. So if you look at brick
and mortar sales are definitely down. Companies if theyre evaluating where to make investments
then the online channel is still attractive. The other thing thats interesting is that among
luxury brands particularly, because prestige and luxury were two different classifications.
Although similar, prestige is just slightly below luxury. But if you look at the luxury brand
segment according to Forrester, 70% of the luxury brands do not have a direct to consumer online
initiative that they own and operate.
So theres a tremendous backlog of projects out there for brands, luxury brands, to go online. And
I think that they realized last year that they were missing the boat and are late to the party
bringing an online initiative on. So theres a pent-up demand. And I think a sense of urgency for
some of these brands to have their own direct to consumer initiative. They realize that their
ability to serve their consumer is diluted through the channel, that they dont have control over
their brands. So they directly take those brands to the marketplace. They want to be closer to the
consumer, and they want to be involved in a part of the channel thats still growing or at least
maintaining. So for all those reasons were seeing a lot of pent-up demand flowing into our new
business pipeline. And I think the opportunities there are fantastic.
<Q George Walsh>: Okay.
<A Mark Layton>: And George, if I could just add to that. Its Mark. Along with that point
in there, two years ago when Mike and Id go see a brand fashion client as hes describing in here,
their number one concern about a direct to consumer deal had to do with competitive conflict with
their traditional channel. And that concern has dramatically diminished over the last couple of
years as a number of the brands have proven that there can be coexistence and the consumer will
make the
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decision. The brands dont compete on price with their traditional channel, so the traditional
channel has to find its value-add in the marketplace, and if thats price then it would be price.
And the consumer can make the decision about that but as Mike said, brand companies want to be able
to present their full range of products, color, style, and sizes to the consumer out there. And
with the expense of retail shelf space and the competitiveness thats out there, most major
manufacturers are unable to display their full range of products. And the web is a way for them to
be able to that, and consumers know that. And thats whats driving the growth in this channel and
the pent-up demand that Mike described earlier.
<Q George Walsh>: Okay. Is there anything in the luxury space that gives you better
margins than certain other customers?
<A Michael Willoughby>: I would say not necessarily. I think the product to an extent that
is sold through luxury brands may have a different response to say a recession. The discretionary
spending probably in that group is maybe still available more than maybe some other categories, but
you know reality is that our services that we provide I think were, the margins that were getting
are pretty comparable across the direct consumer segment.
<Q George Walsh>: Okay.
<A Mark Layton>: Id say those clients tend to use a broader range of our services than
some of the technology clients might use for example, so we end up with a kind of a more enriching
contract relationship if you will with those clients than we might have had with a technology
manufacturer for example.
<Q George Walsh>: Okay. And would Tom, just two quick questions, one with the write-down
in the goodwill, has that added to the value of the tax loss carryforward?
<A Thomas Madden>: No thats nontax deductible items.
<Q George Walsh>: Okay.
<A Thomas Madden>: We didnt step up the basis from a tax standpoint.
<Q George Walsh>: Okay. So thats still at about $40 million?
<A Thomas Madden>: In that range, yes.
<Q George Walsh>: Okay. Also I was just wondering if with the balance sheet at this point,
is there any flexibility in ability to perhaps buy back stock? Seeing as youre trading at
discounts, youre still even at a discount to your tangible book. Were thinking at like 35% of
tangible book and about half of your cash and half of your working cap, versus your market cap. Is
there any flexibility there yet developing?
<A Mark Layton>: Thats always an interesting conundrum, George, and Id say in this
environment we dont have any plans to do that. The credit markets being as they are, we just want
to maintain as much flexibility as we can in terms of our cash resources that are out there. But
thats something that is talked about frequently.
<Q George Walsh>: Right, okay. Well obviously, is any buying on a corporate or a
management level is certainly something that, certainly should be constructive and certainly
hopefully should be something very profitable in the future for anyone in the company on a
corporate scale. Okay. Thank you.
<A Mark Layton>: Thank you, George.
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Operator: [Operator Instructions] There are no further questions at this time, sir.
Mark C. Layton, Chairman, Senior Partner Chief Executive Officer
Great, Nicole, thank you. I appreciate everyones time this morning and best wishes. Well talk to
you next quarter.
Operator: Thank you. This concludes todays conference. You may now disconnect.
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