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FORM 8-K
CURRENT REPORT
PURSUANT TO SECTION 13 OR 15(D) OF THE
SECURITIES EXCHANGE ACT OF 1934
DATE OF REPORT (DATE OF EARLIEST EVENT REPORTED): November 13, 2007
PFSweb, Inc.
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ITEM 8.01 Other Events
On November 13, 2007, PFSweb, Inc. hosted a conference call announcing its financial
results for the quarter ended September 30, 2007. Attached to this current report on Form 8-K is a
copy of the related conference call transcript dated November 13, 2007. The information in this
Report on Form 8-K, and the exhibit hereto, shall not be deemed filed for purposes of Section 18
of the Exchange Act or otherwise subject to the liability of that Section.
ITEM 9.01 Financial Statements and Exhibits
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Pursuant to the requirements of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, the registrant has duly caused
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Exhibit 99.1
MANAGEMENT DISCUSSION SECTION
Operator: Good afternoon. My name is Henry and Ill be your conference operator today. At this
time Id like to welcome everyone to the PFSweb Third Quarter Earnings Conference Call. [Operator
Instructions] After the speakers remarks there will be a question-and-answer session. [Operator
Instructions] Thank you. It is now my pleasure to turn the floor over to your host, Mr. Todd
Fromer, Managing Partner, KCSA. Sir, you may begin.
Todd Fromer, Managing Partner, KCSA Worldwide
Thank you. Good afternoon and thank you for joining us for PFSwebs 2007 third quarter conference
call. Before we begin I must state that the matter discussed on this conference call consist of
forward-looking information under the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995 and is
subject to, and involves risks and uncertainties, which could cause actual results to differ
materially from the forward-looking information. PFSwebs annual report on Form 10-K for the year
ended December 31, 2006 identifies certain factors that could cause actual results to differ
materially from those projected in any forward-looking statements made, and investors are advised
to review the annual report and the risks factors described therein. These factors include our
ability to retain and expand relationships with existing clients and attract and implement new
clients, our reliance on the fees generated by the transaction volume or product sales of our
clients, our reliance on our clients projections or transaction volume or product sales, our
dependence upon our agreements with IBM, our dependence upon our agreements with our major clients
and our client mix, their business volumes and the seasonality of their business, our ability to
finalize pending contracts, the impact of strategic alliances and acquisitions, trends in the
eCommerce, outsourcing, government regulations both foreign and domestic and the market for our
services. Whether we can continue in managed growth, increased competition, our ability to
generate more revenue and achieve sustainable profitability, affects of changes in profit margin,
the customer and supplier concentration of our business, the unknown affects of possible system
failures and rapid changes in technology, foreign currency risk and other risks of operating in
foreign countries, potential litigation, potential de-listings, our dependency on key personnel,
the impact of new accounting standards and changes in existing accounting rules or the
interpretations of those rules, our ability to raise additional capital or obtain additional
financing, our ability and the ability of our subsidiaries to borrow under current financing
arrangements and maintain compliance with that covenants, relationships with and our guarantees of
certain of the liabilities and indebtedness of our subsidiaries, whether outstanding warrants
issued in a prior private placement will be exercised in the future, our ability to successfully
anticipate benefits of the merger, eCOSTs potential indemnification of obligations to its former
parent, eCOSTs ability to maintain existing and build new relationships with manufacturers and
vendors and the success of its advertising and marketing efforts, eCOSTs ability to increase its
sales revenue and sales margin and improve operating efficiencies and eCOSTs ability to generate a
profit and cash flow sufficient to cover the values of its intangible assets.
PFSweb undertakes no obligation to update publicly any forward-looking statements for any reason
even if new information becomes available or other events occur in the future. There may be
additional risks that we do not currently view as material or that are not presently known but
nothing further I would to like to now turn the call over to Mr. Mark Layton, Chairman and Chief
Executive Officer of PFSweb. Mark, the floor is yours.
Mark C. Layton, Chairman of the Board, Senior Partner Chief Executive Officer
Thanks, Todd, and Id like to add my welcome to everyone. As Todd mentioned, we will discuss our
third quarter and a little bit of information about nine months results for 2007. With me here
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today are Tom Madden, our Chief Financial Officer and Mr. Mike Willoughby, is President of Priority
Fulfillment Services Group, our Services Divisions.
Again, I appreciate your time today. I hope youve had a chance to review the release that we put
out a few minutes ago and will share with me my excitement about the fact that 2007 is shaping up
to be a great year for us here at PFS. Just in reflection back in 2005, we set out on a defined
strategic direction that we hoped and believed would allow us to better capitalize on the true core
value of our company, that being the collection of world class call center technology and
distribution infrastructure. Weve spent over 15 years and tens of millions of dollars developing
these capabilities and we realize then that we needed more leverage and more scale to drive faster
and more consisting growth and ultimately to drive improved bottom line performance and improved
overall value for all of our stakeholders.
As I reflect on our year-to-date 2007 financial results, I believe were now beginning to see the
fruits of that effort. These key points, which Mike and Tom will discuss further in their prepared
comments, I believe are critical indicators that we are headed in the right direction.
First, we clearly got some mojo going. Our top line showed some fantastic momentum this quarter,
highlighted by approximately 19% year-over-year revenue growth. In our eCOST division, revenue was
up over 60% versus the same quarter last year and in our Services group we were up 18% over last
year. Secondly, its pretty clear the adjustments that we made back in 2005 to our sales and
marketing approach and our services segment has resulted in a larger and more robust and higher
quality new business pipeline maybe even then weve ever seen and a new number business wins that
Michael will discuss in a few minutes. Third, I believe its clear that our plan to drive greater
leverage and scale through our technology and operational infrastructure combined with sharp
quality and operational cost control has resulted in an improved financial performance.
Adjusted EBITDA, as Tom will discuss, is up significantly compared to last year and we now believe
that our 2007 Adjusted EBITDA will come in toward the high end of our targeted 8 to $10 million
range for the year. And last, as I reflect on this quarters results, with the continued
improvement in financial performance and top line growth, I believe its also clear that our
efforts for stabilized eCOST integrated in the PFS infrastructure and provided the tools and the
resources necessary for success are working marvellously. We continue to have an optimistic
outlook for our targeted fourth quarter results for this business unit as well.
Needless to say, and I hope my tone says it, I am excited about our progress and outlook for the
future and with this information as a backdrop I would like to turn the call over to Mike, wholl
give you some additional color on the Services business. Mike.
Michael Willoughby, Senior Partner President of Priority Fulfillment Services
Thanks, Mark, and good afternoon everyone. Before beginning my comments, I would like to remind
everyone that when we refer to our Services business segment, were including both the Supplies
Distributors and the PFS fees business. Both of these businesses are affectively the same
operating business module, although they have different financial modules.
As Mark has already indicated, we are very pleased with the results for the Service business in the
September quarter and we are excited about what the future holds for this segment of the business
as well as eCOST. Our 2007 third quarter results reflect in improvement over the prior year and
service fee revenue increased 18% to $18.4 million compared to the same period last year.
The increase in revenue is primarily due to several new contracts that were implemented during the
fourth quarter of 2006 and the first quarter of this year including our LEGO deal which we
announced earlier in the year and Riverbed Technology and an increased amount of project work
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during the period. In addition the service fee revenue for the third quarter benefited from a
shift in the timing of transaction volumes from one of our larger clients into this quarter as
opposed to earlier in the year.
On last quarters call we announced a new agreement with a major US retailer and we continue to
receive inquiries about the name of this new client and today Im able to let you know that this
retailer is Tractor Supply Company. Tractor Supply is the largest operator of retail farm and
ranch stores in the United States with over 717 stores in 37 states. The successful and growing
company is focused on supplying the lifestyle needs of recreational farmers, ranchers and those who
enjoy the rural lifestyle. Under the agreement well provide comprehensive solution that includes
customer contact services, warehouse management and order fulfillment services in support of their
Web commerce initiatives.
In his opening comments Mark mentioned the continued positive trend in the size and quality of the
new business pipeline and pointed to this trend as well as some exciting recent new business wins
as evidence that the changes that we made in our strategic direction are starting to bear visible
fruit. I share Marks assessment and his optimism and Id like to share some details around
several additional agreements we have signed since the last quarterly conference call.
In the US we signed an agreement with a large specialty retailer. Through this agreement were
providing this client a seamless customer service solution in support of its direct-to-consumer
business unit. This agreement was signed in September and the program was rolled out starting in
mid to late October at our Plano, Texas facility. The program is expected to ramp up significantly
over the next year including adding customer service agents to our call center facility in Memphis,
Tennessee during the first quarter of 08. Our European business also signed several new service
agreements providing end-to-end Web commerce solutions to each new client. These services include
Web design and hosting, order management, warehousing and fulfillment and distribution. As
previously announced we signed a two-year agreement with MicroLife AG Europe, a subsidiary of
MicroLife Corporation, one of the worlds leaders in the development and manufacturing of medical
diagnostic equipment. This is to support its e-commerce partnership with the Blood Pressure
Association of the United Kingdom. Under the terms of our end-to-end Web commerce agreement were
providing financial management services in addition to the services I mentioned before.
This program was rolled out in September and is being supported by our facility in Liege, Belgium.
In October we signed another end-to-end Web commerce agreement with LOreal, the worlds largest
beauty company. LOreal has selected us to service LOreals international customer base in
support of its Diesel brand line, Fuel for Life. Our services include providing a full service
solution for LOreal online Diesel store including end-to-end services mentioned before plus
product kitting and assembly, returns and multilingual call center support from our European
facility in Belgium.
Also in November 2007 we were engaged by Proximus the largest mobile telecommunications operator in
Belgium. This is also an end-to-end Web commerce agreement through which well provide a complete
service solution for the Proximus online store including the end-to-end services plus returns and
multilingual call center support.
These additions to our growing portfolio of premier direct-to-consumer clients strengthen our
presence in the online retail space, which is our primary growth in the services business today.
We believe our global infrastructure and our experience positions us to effectively compete for and
win business in this hot direct-to-consumer vertical market.
Our prospective new business pipeline is currently valued at about $40 million based on client
projected volumes. This total includes about $12 million of proposals we added in the third quarter.
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As I indicated in the last conference call several of our current prospects are US
retailers and branding companies looking to us to provide end-to-end global Web commerce solutions
to support their expanding online initiatives. This positive trend and the size and quality of the
new business pipeline along with the ongoing presence in our pipeline of qualified end-to-end
global Web commerce opportunity in my opinion helps confirm our objective to continue to focus on
providing end-to-end global solutions for our online retailers and brand.
Now for some highlights from our growing eCOST business Im going to turn the floor back over to
Mark. Mark?
Mark C. Layton, Chairman of the Board, Senior Partner Chief Executive Officer
Thanks, Mike, and Ill just add on the services side of the business in there that successes in
Europe are quite encouraging. While those particular deals that Mike discussed in and of
themselves right now at not huge in size they are an indication that were finally beginning to see
some movement in the Web commerce channel in the European marketplace. So congratulations to our
European unit. Our central location in Belgium is really critical to our success in continental
Europe and we look forward to future results there going forward.
Just shifting over to the eCOST side obviously as Ive stated in the opening comments in there
were very happy with the continued improvement, performance so far this year for eCOST. Revenue
for the third quarter was up over 60%compared to last year. Gross margin improved 8.8% by compared
to 1.9 last year. Obviously, we had a number of integration and related problems in the third
quarter last year. So theres not a lot of direct comparison but clearly the trend when you look
sequentially shows solid improvements and were very optimistic about where were headed here.
So let me recap some of the specific highlights regarding some of the customer service insight
improvements that we continue to make at eCOST. Recently, within the last, I think, three weeks,
we went live with an enhanced catalog search feature through a collaboration and partnership
agreement with Visual Sciences. They are a leading provider of real time analytics and search
tools. The enhanced search function will not only provide eCOST customers with the powerful tool
to find great deals on brand name consumer electronic, home and outdoor merchandise, but also
allows us to begin to direct certain search result pages allowing us to better highlight products
for manufactures.
As an example, if you will go to the eCOST.com site and key in the search word Zune, for example in
the eCOST search box, on the top of that resulting page you will see some feature links that we
added to help direct customers to specific Zune products and players that we are choosing to
feature.
Search is our second most common entry point for consumer shopping at eCOST. Previously. Our
search results with the organic search engine that we had were often inconsistent and relevant that
we believe that the improvements that we made in this area, over time, will result in improving
visitor to order conversion links. This improvement is the latest among many being made on a
regular basis at eCOST.
Also, this past quarter we completed the addition of two new virtual warehouses partners. That
brings our total SKU offering net to over 110,000 products. Youll recall this summer, we launched
into the home and houseware category. As I mentioned in the past, virtual warehousing agreements
offer several benefits for us. First they do not require a large sum of capital for inventory,
because as the name proposes we use our partners warehouse as our stocks. As of today now, we
have about 14 virtual warehouse agreements fully functional.
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Our IT and Product professionals are currently feverishly working to bring on line a significant
implementation group of approximately 10 virtual warehouse partners before cyber Monday. When
implemented, this group of VW will bring us a host of new products and categories, many of which
have attracted gross margin characteristics compared to the technology in electronic products that
we currently offer.
The implementation will significantly expand our offering at home, outdoor, and houseware products
and will also be the initiation of our industry into the casual apparel and sporting goods
categories. This will provide us access to leading manufacturers such as Rawlings, Mizuno, and
Wilson in the sporting goods category, and Hunter Lighting and Klaussner Furniture in the
housewares category.
Overall were targeting to add about 30,000 additional and unique products with full merchandising
information and imagery in this group. I dont expect significant revenues from these categories
this holiday season and weve got a lot of work on the merchandising side in order to be able to
present these products and obviously to begin to make our customer base aware of them. But we see
the peak season as a key opportunity to introduce these new categories to our growing base of daily
site visitors with an eye towards attracting greater return visitors in the coming months as we
appeal to a broader base of customers.
On the marketing front, over the last year, weve made tremendous changes. Weve put much greater
emphasis on our email and viral marketing activities through the advertising of limited time and
limited quantity deals. eCOST has become known for deals and it is what is driving activity to our
site. This focus on finding great deals has become the cornerstone of what we believe the eCOST
shopper seeks and why they return. And even better, they tell their friends about us.
With the new site enhancements in place, we are capitalizing on selling incremental products with
the original order, as well. I described a number of those in our last conference call that relate
to the assortment of accessory products that now are shown in our jump page as we go through the
shopping cart. We have also got a much better picture now of the life value of our customers, our
customer acquisition costs and how to acquire customer profitably than we did anytime in the past.
We believe our customer acquisition marketing, while very challenging, is now armed with better
information, is making great strides in driving increased visitor and site traffic and is allowing
us to improve customer retention.
We believe that collectively, these actions will result in a customer acquisition and retention
model that makes long term financial sense for us. With the holiday season just around the corner,
we are impatiently waiting for Cyber Monday. Predictions for a strong shopping season for web
commerce merchants like eCOST abound. You may have noticed just today in todays Wall Street
Journal, Forrester Research was quoted as saying, US consumers are forecasted to spend about $33
billion on internet purchases between Thanksgiving and Christmas. Thats up 21% from last year.
I think the overall retail projections for the year, a growth of about 4% overall, so clearly
traditional retail is predicted to have a soft holiday season, but web commerce in general is
continuing to flourish as more consumers flock to gain the benefits of convenient shopping, larger
selections, and easier access to in stock products with a growing in the security and capability of
web merchants like eCOST.
I encourage you to be sure to go and check out the great deals that weve got on LCD TVs, GPS
devices, Zune music players, HP re-certified laptops and desktop systems and tens of thousands of
other great products at deal prices that will blow your socks off. Our merchants over the last two
or three months have absolutely beat the bushes out there to find great deals to offer, and we
believe these things are really the cornerstone of us having an optimistic outlook for the fourth
quarter. We believe were well prepared for the holiday season, as I mentioned inventory levels
have increased to meet the expected demand, weve added more trained staff in our Manila call
center to ensure speedy response and competent service, and weve completed our operational
planning that we
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believe will allow us to take orders through Saturday, November 22nd for express
delivery on your doorstep before Christmas. So come on over and experience eCOST improved shopping
and service experience, along with huge product selections and great prices first hand.
Finally, just a quick overview on some of the key operating metrics for eCOST for the quarter ended
September 30th of 07. We had approximately 1.7 million total customers on our house list at the
end of the quarter. That compared to about 1.6 million total customers in the prior year. New
customers for the third quarter totaled about 21,400, that was compared to 34,100 a year ago. A
lot of the change in that relates to the types of customers that we are seeking, and the retention
characteristics of those customers that were after. For the three months ended September 30th we
reported a total of 64,900 orders shipped, an average order value of $405, that compared to 52
thousand orders shipped last year and an average order value of about $361, so average order size
is up about 10%.
Add expenses for the third quarter were about 220 thousand, that compared to about 436 thousand for
the third quarter of 2006. The estimated cost to acquire a new customer this past quarter was
about $7.08, thats down significantly from last year, again as we continue to target the types of
customers that we want from a long term value standpoint. For your notes, the estimated cost to
acquire a new customer is calculated by taking our total ad expenses during the period and dividing
it by the total number of new customers during the same period. That will give the recap on eCOST.
Ill now turn the call over to Tom shortly here and allow him to give you an update on some of the
financials. Tom?
Thomas J. Madden, Senior Partner Chief Financial Officer and Chief Accounting
Thank you, Mark. Let me first start by providing a brief overview of our consolidated operating
results for the quarter ended September 30, 2007. Then I will provide some operating highlights for
each of our business segments as well as an overview of key balancing items.
As reported in our press release. Our consolidated revenues for PFSweb for the quarter ended
September 30 were $112 million a 19% increase as compared to $94.3 million reported for the third
quarter 2006. Gross profit for the third quarter of 2007 was $11.9 million or 10.6% of net
revenues, excluding pass through revenue. As compared to $9.5 million or 10.1% of net revenues in
the third quarter of 2006. The increased consolidated gross profit is primarily attributable to the
improved performance at eCOST. As we have previously discussed we utilize adjusted EBITDA as a key
metrics in evaluating our operational performance.
In the third quarter our consolidated adjusted EBITDA was $3.2 million versus just $5,000 in the
prior year period. For the third quarter net income was $162,000, as Mark indicated earlier it is
our second consecutive quarter of earning positive net income. This equates to break even from a
per share and diluted share calculation, but it compares to a net loss of $3.3 million or 7 cents
loss per basic diluted share for the same period last year. We are quite pleased with our results
for this quarter. We believe this clearly illustrates the progress that we are making throughout
our business units.
Turning now to the performance of the selected business segments for the quarter ended September
30. First, Service Fee revenue increased 18% to $18.4 million from $15.6 million in the prior year
quarter. This increase is primarily due to incremental revenue attributable to the implementation
of custom solutions for new clients such as LEGO brand retail, Riverbed, and others within the past
year, and also relates to the shift in business for one of our major Service Fee clients into the
third quarter, which Mike discussed earlier, as well as increased project revenue activity from
certain clients.
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Gross margin excluding pass-through activity was nearly 30% for the quarter at the high end of our
targeted gross margin range of 25 to 30% primarily due, again to the positive impact of higher
margin project activity, the shift of the transaction volumes for one of our largest clients, as
well as continued focus on controlling our operating costs.
SG&A for the Service Fee segment was consistent with the same period of the prior year. The
current year amount includes the favorable impact of foreign currency fluctuations and certain of
our intercompany balances. And the adjusted EBITDA for the Service Fee business was $2 million for
this quarter as compared to approximately 100,000 in the prior year period. As you can see, we are
quite pleased with the finical performance of our Service Fee business segment this past quarter.
Prior Supplies Distributors business segment revenue was $58.3 million, which was an increase of
$2.4 million as compared to the prior year. This increase was primarily due to the foreign
currency fluctuations, a quick look to our European business.
Gross margin for the Supplies Distributors business decreased year-over-year to approximately 6.9%
as compared to about 9.5% in the prior year third quarter. This decrease in gross margin
year-over-year is primarily due to the impact of certain incremental inventory cost reductions that
occurred in the prior year quarter.
Lets turn now to eCOST. In the third quarter of 2007 eCOSTs revenue was $27 million compared to
$16.7 million last year or a 62% increase. The prior year revenue for eCOST, as Mark indicated
earlier was negatively impacted by service and product merchandising issues in conjunction with our
2006 integration activities. But on a sequential basis eCOSTs total revenue remains steady as
compared to the $27.1 million in the second quarter of 2007. And improved significantly compared
to the 21.6 million in the first quarter of 2007.
The gross margin for the third quarter was approximately 8.8% compared to 1.9% last year. While we
are pleased with eCOSTs increased gross margin for the period we still see room for improvement in
the future. We continue to work toward achieving the gross margin goal we have established of
approximately 9% to 10%. We continue to be focused on controlling SG&A costs within the eCOST
business as well. We maintained a consistent cost level this quarter as compared to the June 2007
quarter. In addition as noted previously, our costs are down significantly than levels experienced
in the prior year.
The net result to the increased revenue along with the gross margin and cost focus is a significant
improvement in eCOSTs bottom line performance. eCOST adjusted EBITDA reflects a loss of $0.4
million for the September 2007 quarter, a continued improvement over the last two sequential
quarters and a dramatic improvement over the prior year loss of $3.2 million.
Now lets discuss some balance sheet highlights. Our consolidated cash position remains solid with
cash, cash equivalents and restricted cash balances exceeding $16.8 million as of September 30,
2007, relatively consistent with where we were at the end of June. Our accounts receivables and
inventory levels continue to reflect solid turnover results during this period as well. In
addition, our banking relationships remain strong.
As indicated in last quarters conference call, in March and April of this year, we renewed,
extended or amended all of our asset based financing facilities for our service fee, Supplies
Distributors and eCOST business segments. All of these new agreements have terms that are either
at or somewhat improved from the prior levels resulting in increased court and capital financing
availability.
Now Id like to turn the call back over to Mark for closing remarks. Mark?
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Mark C. Layton, Chairman of the Board, Senior Partner Chief Executive Officer
Thanks, Tom. Just one clarification my people here in the room have noted that I made a mistake in
what I was saying earlier that we plan to take orders on the eCOST site through Saturday, December
22. I think I said November earlier for express delivery at your doorstep before Christmas. So
thats Saturday, December 22.
In closing, my long-time partner and mentor taught me over and over that profit is a reward for
risk, that was his motto and his saying. Also Mark Twain commented a number of times that 20 years
from now youll be more disappointed by the things that you didnt do than by the ones that you did
do. So throw off the bow lines, sail away from the safe harbor, catch the trade winds in your
sails, explore, dream and discover.
It gives me great pleasure to report that the risks we have taken have led us to discovering
improving growth and increasing profit and that is our plan to continue to risk, to explore, to
dream and to discover. That concludes our prepared remarks for this afternoon and were happy now
to address your questions. Operator?
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QUESTION AND ANSWER SECTION
Operator: Certainly. [Operator Instructions] Our first question is coming from George Walsh of
Gilford Securities. Please go ahead.
<Q George Walsh>: Mark, Id just like to congratulate you and the whole team for another
good quarter and the sequential sustainability is very encouraging so I just want to congratulate
on that.
<A Mark Layton>: Thank you, George.
<Q George Walsh>: I wonder if you could go into a bit with the eCOST on the same theme. It
seems like youre at a pretty good run rate here with revenue sustainability at this level. Speak
to a bit about the mix and theres a little bit, an issue last quarter where you were the margin
mix and the type of products there and how you also see the break even point for eCOST at this
point?
<A Mark Layton>: Okay on the mix side I think last quarter and the second quarter of the
year we had a higher mix of B2B sales here in the summer period than B2C sales and typically our
margin on the B2B side is a little lower than it is on the B2C side. In Q3 actually we saw
probably the reverse trend. Our B2B business was a little bit sluggish I think and not
necessarily down but just kind of flattish in the third quarter. Our B2C revenue was also
relatively steady which wed seasonally expect but were seeing improvements on the margin side of
that business in there which generated higher gross margin activity for us on that side of our
business as well. And as we begin to look into the fourth quarter we see those trends kind of
continuing from there. So I think the mix is going to trend more towards the B2C side as the area
where we see greater opportunities and frankly where were putting more of our resources and
investment in terms of IT development is on that side of that business. The addition of the
product categories that I talked about earlier I think if you go back to our stated objectives when
we announced the merger back in 2005 one of the key aspects of that was to add new product
categories with our technology and distribution capabilities and higher margin product categories
and really take advantage of the enterprise value of eCOST.com website itself. Were now just
beginning to get an ample selection of products and some new categories and as we get those
merchandised we can market them from there. All of those lead to the optimism that you heard from
Tom about our goals towards improving those margin percentage going forward. The second part of
your question I think was related to the break even point. Id say revenue-wise on a monthly basis
were still in that 9 to $10 million range and around 9.5%. Weve got to get roughly an adjusted
gross profit number per month of 950,000 is where were at, in order to generate a break-even
performance from an EBITDA standpoint. So, were very close to that right now. I am hopeful that
the fourth quarter is a break through quarter for us and as I have cautioned in the past, we got to
watch to see what Q1 does in terms of the seasonal change from there. Were in a bit of
unchartered territory here right now given that our historical comparisons for 2006 are not
particularly relevant given the challenges that we had last years. Were clearly growing through
and recapturing some of our customers that may have been disappointed with our performance in the
past right now and some of that will be a one-off gain and then well be back to really try to
focus on the customer acquisition module that was described in the call from there. So, we are
close on the break-even standpoint from there and continue to make progress.
<Q George Walsh>: Just in line with that, the active customers was down sequentially, is
that something that is that number a reflection of the focusing effort youve done over the last
year and there is a point where that becomes a little bit more of a concern to you. It seems like
the new customers ads are thats a good counter balance to that. It seems like their quality
customers and better customers.
<A Mark Layton>: And what you got is we are focused on quality customers. You will notice
in the trend, that you just stated, the ad expense is down significantly as well. I think were
down almost half from where we were on the same quarter last year. Were really targeting our ad
spend
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toward being certain that were acquiring customers that fit in an acquisition module that when we
pay to acquire them ultimately were turned to a minimum goal net income percentage over the next
12, 18 months of life value that we expect from them. One of the things, I think, that had
happened historically here is that there was a lot of, at least what we saw, was a lot of spend
that was going on related generating growth and new customer activity with customers that
ultimately werent going to drive profit for you. The business had and I need to be fair to
everybody involved in this before, it was a different time and place and growth was really the key
focus of the business at the time. It had a much longer-term outlook for its profit and so they
ran into some of the challenges that they had operationally that affected their financial
performance and that forced them to really change courses. So, it was a different time and a
different place but we had to really unravel the business from a mind set of just growing and
focusing on growing with customers that could have a more near term financial positive impact on
us. So thats the change that you see in the new customer side we are down with ad expense down
but the cost of [indiscernible] of those customers are down significantly as well.
<Q George Walsh>: Okay. And are you getting any data in terms of the repeat customers, the
people that are getting customer loyalty improvement?
<A>: Yes weve got very good data, we havent disclosed all that data, but I will say to you
right now that weve got since August of 2006 now Ive got very good data on all of the new
customers that were added since August of 2006. We continue to monitor those trends and we have got
good return rates. We are able to now subclass those into different sources and demographics of
customers so that we can see which programs and activities are there we are much more active now in
our catalog mailing than we had been in all of 2006 and for the most part of 05. The catalog is a
key part of reactivation of customers that we already have on our house list and so we are doing
much more on that front from there and trying to focus on whats really a lot lower cost
acquisition model in terms of marketing the customers that have already done business with us in
the past. We have got good data, good activity, and now it is just the age old direct marketing
game of testing and experimenting and finding the nuggets.
<Q George Walsh>: Okay great. Ill get back in cue and then come back. Thanks.
Operator: Thank you. [Operator Instructions] Our next question is coming from Jon Hickman of MDB
Capital. Please go ahead.
<Q Jon Hickman>: Hi, just a couple of questions. It seems like you change the reporting so
you are not putting stock based compensation up in the expense anymore?
<A>: Yes, its still being included in the P&L...
<Q Jon Hickman>: Its in the SG&A...
<A>: with our auditors its now part of the SG&A line.
<Q Jon Hickman>: Okay, great.
<A>: As opposed to be broken out separately and I think we put the disclosure in there as far
as the dollar amounts. Yes its in the reconciliation and in our 10-Q you will actually see it line
item out or described, I guess, as a component of the SG&A.
<Q Jon Hickman>: Yes, I just wanted to make sure I didnt miss something. Then during the
prepared remarks you mentioned Tractor Supply as the major retailer that you had announced earlier
and were waiting for the okay to actually give the name. Then it seems like you mentioned that you
had also signed another major retailer. Is that, did I get that mixed up? Are there two? Or is
just Tractor Supply?
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<A>: Youre correct. We announced as we previously announced, the business with the
retailer, we announced the name today of that retailers Tractor Supply. And then separately we
announced the signing of a call center deal with a large specialty retailer that is still unnamed,
and were very excited about that contract as well. But it is a separate new contract from the
Tractor Supply deal.
<Q Jon Hickman>: Okay. And then I have one other question. So the fourth quarter with
eCOST and with your service business is typically the best quarter of the year right, as far as
revenues go?
<A>: That would be our expectation on the eCOST side, yes.
<A>: Not necessarily on the PFS side. Our largest client relationship has seasonality thats
generally been stronger, historically primarily in the June quarter. The issue both June and
September quarters are their stronger quarters.
<Q Jon Hickman>: Okay. So there could be a little, well okay. But last year, well last
year you had an increase in your service business during the third and fourth quarters.
<A>: Yes we did.
<Q Jon Hickman>: Okay. So I just want to make sure I understand this right. So, for you
to hit the top end of your guidance or EBITDA, you only have to do $2.7 million in EBITDA this
quarter. Am I correct?
<A>: Thats correct.
<Q Jon Hickman>: Okay, thank you. Thats it for me.
<A>: Thank you.
Operator: [Operator Instructions] Our next question is coming from Jim Curran of New Sale
Investment. Please go ahead.
<Q>: Hi, one of you would comment if you are doing anything extra to promote business to the
eCOST site for Christmas?
<A>: Are we do anything extra to promote this site?
<Q>: Yes, more than, more than you normally have done?
<A>: This comes back to that conversation I had just I think two callers ago regarding the
careful use of advertising spend, and were trying to be accountable for just about every dollar
that we put out in terms of our ability to be able to measure its impact and what its actual costs,
what the actual cost is to acquire a new customer. We are testing a lot of areas out there, but I
would not expect our total ad spend for the quarter to be significantly different than it was in Q3
at this point. And we are relying more on our deals and viral aspects of that, as well as our
email marketing and catalog marketing to be able to drive activity to the site.
<Q>: How often are you sending out catalogs?
<A>: Were on about an every six week cycle right now, and we have a kind of defined
algorithm of who choose to mail to in each 6 week cycle.
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<Q>: You talked a little bit about your seasonality, your PFS business. Youre taking out a
lot of new customers and direct supply and others, and was just wondering to what degree is that
changing with your new contract?
<A>: Well, I think there certainly is a focus in the business on targeting the on-line
retailers and the brands which tend to have a big fourth quarter. So I think that over the long
term you might expect for us to see stronger and stronger fourth quarters. But we do benefit from
a very nice spread across the year in client volumes. So, we continue to expect to benefit from
that, and not see an inordinate amount of business falling into the fourth quarter like some of our
competitors struggle with. So I think right now were pretty comfortable with adding the on-line
retailers and brands to our infrastructure, and being able to handle the scale of responding to
that fourth quarter. And quite frankly over time, seeing fourth quarter kind of rise up to the
level of some of the other quarters have been traditionally for us. So were looking pretty good
right there.
<Q>: Okay, thanks.
<A>: Thank you.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question is coming from George Walsh of Gilford Securities. Please
go ahead.
<Q George Walsh>: The pipeline stayed nicely up there, in fact, even increasing it seems a
little bit for the services side. Is there any seasonality to that, where once you get past the
Christmas season, maybe that will kind of drop off a bit? Or is it just kind of general business
activity that youre seeing?
<A>: I do not believe that were going to see a variation in our new business pipeline based
on seasonality.
<Q George Walsh>: Okay.
<A>: I think that weve seen the fluctuation in that pipeline over quarter to quarter for the
past couple of years. And right now weve seen pretty consistent growth quarter on quarter for the
past two to three. And if look at the activities that are coming into our pipeline through RFPs
and just different sources, were not seeing, maybe what we have seen in the past couple of years
as far as a drop off in Q4. The interest remains strong, and we are continuing too see new deals
coming into the front end of the pipeline. So with luck, we will see this trend kind of continue
on through Q4 and into 08. I mean, we just believe that its just an indicator of the strength of
the on-line retail sector, with a lot of companies re-platforming, and a lot of companies,
especially brands, really testing the waters with on-line, web commerce where they havent before.
So, were hoping to ride that wave and see a benefit from the real solid business pipeline that we
have right now.
<A>: Add to that June and July are typically sluggish months in the services side in terms of
new RFP activity so if theres any seasonality those would be the months that we would see things
slower. Ill underline that comment with the fact that some of these deal sizes are can range from
1 million to $15 million on an annual fee size. So the pipeline can change rapidly on that and one
large deal could make a pretty significant difference one way or the other with that. So you just
kind of have to peel back the layers a little bit there to understand what we will need.
<Q George Walsh>: Okay. Well currently have you got, is there that kind of mix in there
where theres like one really big order or is it just kind of several?
<A>: Theres no individual items within there that are over 10 million so theres a couple of
larger items but a good mix.
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<Q George Walsh>: Okay. And is there such demand that the margins on these, or is your
pricing for you guys better or is it pretty competitive out there?
<A>: Pricing is pretty good for us at this point. Our key competitor in this industry
typically prices higher than we do using a different model. So were, while were not necessarily
the largest proprietor in the direct-to-consumer space at this point, we do enjoy that cap or
exceed on the B2B side but on the B2C space our bigger competitor there is more expense than we
are. So weve got some flexibility in there in terms of our ability to be able to be aggressive in
the marketing in that business.
<Q George Walsh>: Okay, all right. Ill get back in queue and come back. Thanks.
<A>: Thank you.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question is coming from Liza Millet of Crown Advisors. Please go
ahead.
<Q>: Hi. How are you?
<A>: Good, how are you?
<Q>: Question, your pipeline revenue, is that all service fee revenue?
<A>: Yes, according to pipeline size thats all service fee opportunities.
<Q>: Okay and the 12 million in proposals added is, that doesnt include the new contract
thats RFPs that are out there that you got new in the third quarter? Is that correct?
<A>: Thats correct.
<Q>: Okay and then the, can you remind me what your service fee target margin is and how
leverageable that is once the new business wins?
<A>: The target margin on the service fee side is 25 to 30%. I would say that thats highly
leverageable.
<A>: As the deal sizes get larger, the margins do trim up and also as you deal with typically
deals that are broader spectrum deals, what we would call end to end, type activities have greater
margin opportunity to them than deals that are Silo deals, if you will, where there is only one
business function evolved so there is some variability again in that in terms of what kind of deal
it is and how competitive it is.
<Q>: Okay and your press released your separate press release talked about three of the
deals but not didnt include the other European deal, The MicroLife deal and then talked about 6
to 8 million in services over the various terms of the agreement. Do you have an average time of
those agreements? I know you said one was 2 year?
<A>: The reason that The MicroLife deal was not included in the todays press releases was
because we had to announce that in October already so we didnt want to duplicate an announcement
of a new contract win so we just added the three new ones that have been done since that point in
time. The average life for these is approximately two years so you can kind of take that number in
half and estimate the annual service fee revenue aspect of it.
<Q>: Okay thank you and then the other thing is your CapEx I know it looks like it increased
from your guidance for the year from last quarter. Is that because the highest service fee wins?
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<A>: Yes, we have disclosed previously was that it was 3 to $5 million excluding some of the
new clients activities with some of the additional client activities that weve got through the
years, both areas this year as well through the year. The total number that weve now quoted is 6
to 7 million now includes that additional new client activity.
<Q>: Okay, Okay thank you.
<A>: Thank you, have a great day.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question is coming from is a follow-up from Jim Curran of New
Sale Investment. Please go ahead.
<Q>: Youve mentioned competitors, can I ask who you consider who your main competitors to
be?
<A>: Depends on the segment of the business and the B2B side competitors are typically, what
have been traditionally called 3PL providers. It would be companies like Eagle, Excel Logistics,
Penske, Ryder Logistics, Menlo are the primary players you see on that B2B side and thats
typically in the technology industry area, technology manufactures. On the B2C side our biggest
and most common competitors GSI Commerce, we also see Innotrac and historically seen a preview
which was recently acquired by GSI for 15 times EBITDA.
<Q>: Okay. I am curious to what degree people your potential customers look at the size of
your business possibly your market cap. What factors are they looking for stability in your
business to make a positive decision?
<A>: Well there are always questions. Trading at the share price that we are yet and stuff.
I would say thats always a check point on any of our customers lists is the play on. These are
marriages in the service side of our business. You got a lot of eggs in one basket and deals so
you have to have confidence in our partner like wise us and our partner as well. Many of these
divisions and clients we deal with, we got to be real careful with from there. But typically if
youre one a phone call from CFO to CFO is all that is necessary to calm those aspects and things
out there and they just explain the strength that we got in our balance sheet, our banking
relationships and then we really let our client references speak for themselves from there. Even
past clients, today, are more than willing to speak to potential clients for us at terms of the
referencability of the work we done and are willingness to make investments on their behalf and so
on so. There is work that has to get done there but its clearly something that we have been
successful doing.
<Q>: Okay. Now you mentioned like your current contracts, your new contracts are for two
years, raises a the question of to what degree are you having turn over and contracts or renewals
and are you able to renew for longer terms and things like that.
<A>: We dont focus too much on term. I would say that some of the competitors in our
industry like to focus on term. We like to focus on just doing quality work and have clients want
to stay as opposed to dealing with terms and contracts. The longer the term the more legal work
typically that has to get done with everybody with that. Most of our contracts, frankly, are
terminable at will or terminable with notice a relatively short period of time from there and now
there are every contract is a little bit different. But there are coverage charges to leave in
many client situations out there. The term is not really an area that we spend a lot of time with.
We got a high degree of renew activity with that. We have shed some clients this year. One of
the backers in the improvement ad, most profit percentage on the services side, has to do with some
of the clients weve chosen not to continue with. If we cant make our targeted margin, and we
cant make adjustments to the client relationship, either in the way were processing the goods in
the scope of the deal that were doing, or in changes in the pricing structure, then were going to
make proactive changes on our side to be able to move forward with it. So weve got a goal gross
margin, and a defined group of resources
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that we have to deploy. And if we want to capitalize on the opportunity thats out there, then we
want to be certain were pointing to market areas that we can achieve the kind of gross margin that
were after. So there is client turnover that does occur, but as you can see from our growth
results here, were growing in spite of the planned turnover that we put in place this year.
<Q>: So most of the turnovers been at your choice?
<A>: I think therere conversations that go on, that become difficult conversations.
Typically, there are issues on both sides of the table that are trying to be addressed, and in some
cases, youre able to address them, and both parties are happy; and in other cases, you make the
decision to shake hands, and to separate in the professional manner. So it is a 2-way street.
<Q>: Okay, thanks.
<A>: Just to add further to that, Tom just gave me a note here. We have clients that have
business changes; some clients choose to launch on our infrastructure, test both a
business-to-consumer segment, and a business-to-business segment, for example, and then decide that
the B-to-B side and through a traditional retail channel is where theyre going to go with the
product. Weve got 1 client thats done that 3 different times, I think, with us, and 2 of the
products have stayed with us, and 1 of the products decided it was going to be a pure retail
product. They moved it back in-house, because they already had traditional distribution
capabilities in-house. There are lots of reasons, acquisitions; Nextel was a good client of ours
at 1 point in time, acquired by Sprint, Sprint consolidated them. So, there are other reasons
than what I just described to relate to customer activity. So thank you for your questions, I
appreciate it.
<Q>: Thank you.
Operator: Our next question is coming from George Walsh of Gilford Securities. Please go ahead.
<Q George Walsh>: Tom, could you, just a little more detail on Tractor Supply, just in
terms of understanding; do you have any revenue stream numbers? Not what you expect to do, but Im
just trying to get a sense of the size of the company.
<A Thomas Madden>: Sure. Well, let me tell you that, I think, as weve previously
indicated, this is a start-up for them, this online retail initiative. And I think the best way for
me to direct you to the information regarding the size of the company and the nature of the
initiative is just to point you to tractorsupply.com. They are a public company and there are
press releases and information on their website that talk about the company specifically and also
this initiative in detail.
<Q George Walsh>: Okay. They are public. I went to the site I didnt quite catch that.
Okay.
<A>: The other thing I will add on that, that all of the brands that were working with that
Mike spoke of earlier, are all looking a lot of the Internet 100 information shop.org information
thats out there that begins to speak to what percentage of their total business is coming from
there, what commerce initiative. And the guys that got out of the gate early are now many of them
in the average of 9 to 11% of their total sales are being done through the web commerce profiles.
So when you begin to look at large companies, large retailers out there who are just beginning
their initiative there is a pretty big frontier for them to be able to capitalize on out there in
terms of their market share aspect. So its interesting times.
<Q George Walsh>: Okay. Great. The other was Mark, you, I just want to get a better handle
on, you mentioned the if I thought I heard it right, the 10 universal warehouses in the 30,000 new
products for eCOST. And that seems quite significant in also it would seem to be the biggest move
in that direction you probably made since the acquisition, is that correct?
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<A>: Yes it is. Were working with a partner that is affect a wholesaler of virtual
warehouse relationships. We were able to strike an arrangement with them where we could create one
technology interface that would provide us access to about 10 VW partners across these categories
that I spoke of earlier. So it made for a relatively efficient way for us to be able to get to a
big group of guys very quickly. Were again, were still testing here. We are in lets say the
final stages of our system test. We kind of get to a point here where we dont want to launch with
the holiday season, so really my hedge that you heard in the comments and its really related to
whether were going to make it across the finish line in time for cyber Monday or not. And then if
we dont make that, a conscious decision about whether we want to really try to plough it in to
this quarter or hold off until after the holiday season just for a term of safety. Were kind of
evaluating that but I wanted to provide everybody a feel for the fact that we think there is a
hopeful in the next week or so that well add about 30,000 in those categories that I described.
The same partner there is another maybe 30 to 40,000 products that are available from this group of
companies that are going to require more work from us the merchandising side than were going to be
able to get done in the next 10 days. So those wont be available before the holidays. But you
think youre dead on. Its the biggest lump weve brought in if you will since the merger.
<Q George Walsh>: Yes and I just think its significant conceptually in that you had to do
a lot of streamlining of eCOST over the last couple of years as you brought it in and it seems
youre comfortable with that now. Youve got a good organization and youre ready to really build
upon it.
<A>: All right and as we look to the future one other thing that was left out of the merger
plans that we have not yet addressed relates to geographic expansion. I think that will be a 2008
topic for us in terms of what we may want to do in Canada and Europe on top of the infrastructure
that we already had in place on in those countries. Its certainly a logical discussion for us to
have. I cant conclusively say yes that thats where were going to go but its certainly an area
thats on our list for further evaluation for next year.
<Q George Walsh>: Do you mean in terms of eCOST?
<A>: eCOST yes.
<Q George Walsh>: Okay. I guess Im a little confused in that when you have a virtual site
what does that mean by geographic expansions?
<A>: Im just saying another strategy for us in terms of expansion is to begin to really
expand our activities in the Canadian and European market.
<A>: International.
<Q George Walsh>: International sales for eCOST, okay.
<A>: Yes.
<Q George Walsh>: Okay, got you.
<A>: Thank you.
Operator: Thank you, the Q&A portion is now concluded. Ill now turn the call over to your hosts
for any closing remarks.
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Mark C. Layton, Chairman of the Board, Senior Partner Chief Executive Officer
Okay well I appreciate everyones time this morning. Again we continue to work hard here in terms
of improving the financial performance of the business and our growth aspects. I would once again
call your attention to the fact that we think our shares continue to remain significantly
undervalued in light of some of the equity deals that have been done on the market recently, and
our comparable comparisons. So tell your friends about it and well keep our nose to the
grindstone here and continue to improve the financial performance. I appreciate your time today.
Take care.
Operator: Thank you. This concludes todays conference. You may now disconnect.
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